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Re: Gemini Robotics

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I don't understand the negativity here. We have made enormous progress both in language models and in reinforcement learning for robotics. Is it really hard to believe that putting it all together like Google is apparently doing, is possible?

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Re: Gemini Robotics

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post #40

I read too much scifi, and almost none of it has updated on the current state of AI. For example spaceships swarming with low skill level crew members that swab the decks and replace air filters. Or depending on a single engineer to be the only one with the crucial knowledge to save the ship in an emergency. If scifi authors aren't keeping up it's hard to expect the rest of us to. But the macro and micro economic cha…

> For example spaceships swarming with low skill level crew members that swab the decks and replace air filters. This is largely a function of what science fiction you read. Military SF is basically about retelling Horatio Hornblower stories in space, and it has never been seriously grounded in science. This isn't a criticism, exactly. But if you look at, say, the award-winning science fiction of the 90s, for example…

Yeah that tracks. If we're being real, there won't ever be much of actual human exploration beyond Earth, it'll all be done with fully automated systems. We're just not physically made for the radiation and extremely long periods of idle downtime. Star Wars has the self-awareness to call itself fantasy as some kind of exception, even though 99% of all other other sci-fi is pretty much that too.

Seeing drones do all the work unfortunately isn't very interesting though.

Re: Gemini Robotics

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Yes, that is fair and probably the accurate assessment. A bit like Tim Cook. He may not be innovative but Apple sure has been profitable. I guess it is easy to view it from my own perspective, one tinged with a hope for invention and innovation. But the market probably loves the financial stability Pichai has brought to the table and doesn't care about the flaws I see. And I 'm not sure why I have rose tinted glasses…

Imo this is just Tim Cook’s public image. By all accounts, comparing Sundar to him is just not fair. Just off the top of my head, under Tim Cook the company managed to: * Propel smartwatches as a brand new product category into the mainstream and be the leader in that category. * Propel AirPods as a brand new product category into the mainstream (and be the leader in that category as well). * Smoothly transition to A…

Not to mention apple silicon or the apple modem

Re: Gemini Robotics

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Imo this is just Tim Cook’s public image. By all accounts, comparing Sundar to him is just not fair. Just off the top of my head, under Tim Cook the company managed to: * Propel smartwatches as a brand new product category into the mainstream and be the leader in that category. * Propel AirPods as a brand new product category into the mainstream (and be the leader in that category as well). * Smoothly transition to A…

Why doesn't this comment mention Vision Pro or Apple Car?

Because we are talking about what product wins they had. Apple Car was never officially announced, and Vision Pro is clearly their experimental/devkit sort of a product.

Vision Pro might succeed or fail, and that’s fine. I tried it, and it is clearly a significant step towards the future, but I am not sure of it becoming a successful product at its current price point and in its current state.

I am not judging CEOs or companies negatively for taking ambitious product bets and not always striking gold on those bets. I am judging them negatively for not having any product wins and not taking any ambitious product bets.

Re: Gemini Robotics

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post #177

One of my previous coworkers put it best: the cool looking proof of concept or prototype is 10% of the effort, and getting something that works in the real world and that people actually want is the other 100%. If we see a real world application that a business actually uses, or that people want to use, that's great. But why announce the prototype with the lab demos? It's premature. Better to wait until you have a go…

For the same reason any research lab announces anything. So the researchers can publish a paper and so their employer can recruit.

Re: Gemini Robotics

#236

I read too much scifi, and almost none of it has updated on the current state of AI. For example spaceships swarming with low skill level crew members that swab the decks and replace air filters. Or depending on a single engineer to be the only one with the crucial knowledge to save the ship in an emergency. If scifi authors aren't keeping up it's hard to expect the rest of us to. But the macro and micro economic cha…

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Re: Gemini Robotics

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Imo this is just Tim Cook’s public image. By all accounts, comparing Sundar to him is just not fair. Just off the top of my head, under Tim Cook the company managed to: * Propel smartwatches as a brand new product category into the mainstream and be the leader in that category. * Propel AirPods as a brand new product category into the mainstream (and be the leader in that category as well). * Smoothly transition to A…

Not to mention apple silicon or the apple modem

Good point about apple modem, but I’d mentioned the ARM transition (aka Apple Silicon). Edited the original reply just now to use both names for it.

Re: Gemini Robotics

#239
I'm a firmware engineer that's been working in consumer electronics and I feel very bleak about my future I feel so left behind. I have extremely limited robotics and computer vision experience. I have no ML experience. The only math I know has to do with basic signal processing.

When I see open roles at these companies I think the projects I'm going to work on in the future will be more and more irrelevant to society as a whole.

Anyway, this is amazing. Please delete/remove my post if it seems like this adds nothing to the conversation

Re: Gemini Robotics

#240
post #177

One of my previous coworkers put it best: the cool looking proof of concept or prototype is 10% of the effort, and getting something that works in the real world and that people actually want is the other 100%. If we see a real world application that a business actually uses, or that people want to use, that's great. But why announce the prototype with the lab demos? It's premature. Better to wait until you have a go…

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