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Regardless of where you get the weights, Google says you need to follow their terms and conditions for the model/weights: > By using, reproducing, modifying, distributing, performing or displaying any portion or element of Gemma, Model Derivatives including via any Hosted Service, (each as defined below) (collectively, the "Gemma Services") or otherwise accepting the terms of this Agreement, you agree to be bound by…

i think generally these companies are too afraid of the obvious rejoinder to try actually enforcing these terms

Probably, up until they aren't. Are you willing to bet against Google's lawyers feeling daring in the future? As a private individual, I sure aren't, and I don't think I'd bet my (hypothetical) business on it either.

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For someone jumping back on the local LLM train after having been out for 2 years, what is the current best local web-server solution to host this for myself on a GPU (RTX3080) Linux server? Preferably with support for the multimodal image input and LaTeX rendering on the output.. I don't really care about insanely "full kitchen sink" things that feature 100 plugins to all existing cloud AI services etc. Just running…

Ollama + open web-ui in a container

https://ollama.com/

https://github.com/open-webui/open-webui

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Per quick testing the 27b model seems very strong at least in natural language. It produces even good Finnish, in which smaller models tend to really struggle. Very promising. Edit: Per even quicker testing the Finnish language performance degrades rapidly with the smaller models, as is usually the case. Would be great to have language specific distillations from larger models.

How does it compare to Deepl for Finnish ?

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It's funny because the results are in, millennials grew up with pretty easy access to all manner of porn from an early age and the effect has been nothing. Even a reduction in intimacy if anything. I'm sure the hysterical puritans of the past will come out any day now and admit that they weren't even 1% correct in their assertions.

> Even a reduction in intimacy if anything. My understanding is that this is one of their complaints

It's what they switched when confronted with evidence, roll the clock back 10, 20, 30 years though and it was "Will turn them into rapists, molesters, and social degenerates."

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Thanks, been using Gemma 2 a lot at home as it still holds up very well and the 9B version runs great on my 2080Ti. Strong prompt adherence coupled with overall capability makes it very useful. Looking forward to trying Gemma 3. I have some dumb questions though, might as well ask. How do you decide on the model sizes? And how do you train them? Independently or are they related somehow?

Picking model sizes is not an exact science. We look for sizes that will fit quantized on different categories on devices (e.g., low-end and high-end smartphone, laptops and 16GB GPUs, and bigger GPUs/TPUs). We also want the ratio of model width to depth (number of layers) to be consistently around 90, which we found works best. The models are trained with distillation from a bigger teacher. We train them independent…

Can you provide more information about this “bigger teacher” model?

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Replace "google" with "unsloth" in the browser address bar if you want to download them without signing up to hf

Regardless of where you get the weights, Google says you need to follow their terms and conditions for the model/weights: > By using, reproducing, modifying, distributing, performing or displaying any portion or element of Gemma, Model Derivatives including via any Hosted Service, (each as defined below) (collectively, the "Gemma Services") or otherwise accepting the terms of this Agreement, you agree to be bound by…

I don't disagree but even Linux has "Terms and conditions" of usage under it's license you really need to dig into what those are.

There's no doubt Gemma's license is less permissive than other models and that it has less community finetuners for that reason.

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> They are designed to help prevent our models from generating harmful content, i.e., > [...] > Sexually explicit content Dear tech companies. Sexually explicit content is not harmful. Why are you all run by puritans? I don't even want to make edgy porn, I just want to be treated like an adult.

It's harmful in that there exists a significant and vocal subset of users who does not wish to see that content or does not wish their children to do so. It's easier to teach your model never to produce that kind of content than to teach it to perfectly distinguish whether this user should see that content or not. TV channels are barred from broadcasting this kind of content for similar reasons. Sure, there are alway…

And that threat is harmful in that it will kill the tech and investment. Betamax and all.

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Greetings from the Gemma team! We just got Gemma 3 out of the oven and are super excited to show it to you! Please drop any questions here and we'll answer ASAP. (Opinions our own and not of Google DeepMind.) PS we are hiring: https://boards.greenhouse.io/deepmind/jobs/6590957

Excellent work. What optimizer did you use? I assume AdamW? I didn't see it listed.

Re: Gemma 3 Technical Report [pdf]

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Gemma 3 is out! Multimodal (image + text), 128K context, supports 140+ languages, and comes in 1B, 4B, 12B, and 27B sizes with open weights & commercial use. Gemma 3 model overview: https://ai.google.dev/gemma/docs/core Huggingface collection: https://huggingface.co/collections/google/gemma-3-release-67... ollama: https://ollama.com/library/gemma3

> ollama: https://ollama.com/library/gemma3

Needs an ollama newer than 0.5.11. Probably the very-recently-released v0.6.0[1]:

> New Model:

> * Gemma 3: Google Gemma 3 model is now available in 1B, 4B, 12B, and 27B parameter sizes.

[1]: https://github.com/ollama/ollama/releases/tag/v0.6.0

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