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Natural occurring molecule rivals Ozempic in weight loss, sidesteps side effects

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Re: Natural occurring molecule rivals Ozempic in weight loss, sidesteps side effects

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Isn't the molecule in Ozempic naturally occurring too?

Isn’t everything naturally occurring? It all originates from earth, where else would it come from?

Some elements don’t occur naturally and need to be formed artificially / by force by smashing together atoms that would never smash together in nature (in some cases because those atoms in turn also don’t exist in nature).

Re: Natural occurring molecule rivals Ozempic in weight loss, sidesteps side effects

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What does "naturally occurring" mean in this context?

Most people think "natural" means they can just go into backyard, dig up some root, and get this for free. But its " Gila Monster’s venom". So natural, but you aren't going to just go out and eat it like resveratrol from wine. At this point, 'natural', just means made from atoms, yes atoms are naturally occurring.

I may be missing some of your sarcasm, but "Gila Monster's venom" meets the strictest definition of natural.

Re: Natural occurring molecule rivals Ozempic in weight loss, sidesteps side effects

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this is not really a charitable take. For one, nearly everything medical needs certain purity and concentration so you need specialized equipment. For two, even if a chemical is easy to produce by industrial standards, you still need to run trials to prove that it's both safe and actually does what you hope it does.

I wonder what the distinction here is between supplement and pharmaceutical. Could they have chosen to bring it to market as a supplement?

They could have, but they would have been seen as just another “weight loss supplement”. Which I imagine is a real uphill communication battle to convince people that you’re just not another scam.

Re: Natural occurring molecule rivals Ozempic in weight loss, sidesteps side effects

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Remember, weight loss is a side effect of the Ozempic family of drugs. It was intended as a type 2 diabetes drug and it’s quite successful in that area. Once alternate applications are revealed, drug design gets involved to develop alternatives. Medchemists and marketeers are clever…

Re: Natural occurring molecule rivals Ozempic in weight loss, sidesteps side effects

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Isn't the molecule in Ozempic naturally occurring too?

Isn’t everything naturally occurring? It all originates from earth, where else would it come from?

They did specify "molecule". Certainly not every pharmaceutical occurs naturally, and other materials such as Teflon don't either.

Re: Natural occurring molecule rivals Ozempic in weight loss, sidesteps side effects

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Is the muscle loss a side effect of the drug or of the weight loss?

The loss. You eat less so you're probably eating less protein. And if you used to be heavy then it's safe to say you probably had some muscle mass and you're going to lose that with the caloric deficit especially if you're not exercising.

Re: Natural occurring molecule rivals Ozempic in weight loss, sidesteps side effects

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Delighted to discover this kind of breakthrough is based on a gnarly regular expression: https://github.com/Svensson-Lab/pro-hormone-predictor/blob/m...

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I’m not sure what this brings to the conversation. Are you able to attest to the correctness of what Sonnet claims?
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