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not as childish as 'we won't use your websites but we will use your military to protect ourselves'
Would you protect your family? Would you protect your friends? Do they count on your protection and support (or you,on theirs)? Do you tell them to just stop begging for your help and protection and ask what have they actually done for you?
USA isn't boycotting ikea or spotify afaik.
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Yeah, you can't be a nazi in Europe, promoting political assasination and genocide has consequences there,
Yes, I agree. Signal is inherently contrary to the statism en vogue in most European nations at this time, and why they have repeatedly affirmed that they would leave the EU rather than allow user surveillance should Chat Control 2.0 or 3.0 be passed (rather Orwellianly officially named the "Regulation to Prevent and Combat Child Sexual Abuse (Child Sexual Abuse Regulation)".
Should we dig up USa stupid proposals? Or dig up actual laws like the USA laws for snooping on people that were revealed by Snowden?
A bit offtopic , is it a lw or rule that you are not allowed to call Trump a felon ? And is that constitutional?
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Agreed Europe has never had to care about that because we have always supported the US. Now there is always Loongson/Zhaoxin to base your infra on. Considering the way the US is heading you might see people considering a "neutral party" in the war. AWS is nice and all not unique though.
You absolutely could go bare-metal with emerging local platforms and a Chinese stack — that’s the path Russia (and obviously China itself) is heading down. But... Equinix? US. Digital Realty? US. NTT? Japan. Interxion? US. CyrusOne? US. That’s your top five DC/colo operators in Europe. Same story with Tier-1 and Tier-1.5 ISPs. It’s not just software. It’s not even just hardware. It’s the whole stack — down to power g…
Why add "Support European Values" to the title when I can't find it anywhere on the page? Pointless inclusion for something with quite the potential for polemics... EDIT: whoops, either I'm blind or some JS blocking hid it from my eyes...
In terms of plain HTML, all you have is:
"Buy European Made"
And all the meta tags for social media:
Could we avoid politics on the tech scene? I think we're all better than that, and we know the tech scene thrives through collaboration, not isolationism.
Tech is directly affected by policy. Hell, any mention of OSS is eminently political by definition.
The imminent trade wars that the current US administration is set to start will dramatically affect the tech sector. Discussion of region-based alternatives are not only relevant, but important in the current moment.
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> maybe they can adopt "stop begging USA for military protection" as their value first. Basically we did that already. But the preferred wording is "Don't rely on the USA because they are no longer trustworty."
> Basically we did that already. You mean they were always capable of doing it but choose to fleece USA instead ? Ironically proving trump right.
That is, until the eastern-european countries realize who they're more aligned to culturally at this point, and start leaving one by one.
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How are you not aware that the US painted "we are no longer a reliable partner" all above the sky?
If your startup is selling to US government, sure, but otherwise I don't think there is much unreliability in selling SaaS, courses, or whatever gadget to US residents?
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Signal comes from the country where the Prism [1] is still functioning. While it has open source, NSA can request from deployers on any stage to inject surveillance functionality: request from Signal authors, from Android / Apple Store repository maintainers and probably many other actors on the deployment chain to my mobile phone. I could install it from sources but I do not have any guarantee my message sent to my…
I wonder why can't we have a fully open source e2ee that would be easy to use?
Not every european company embodies european values. As an example, Signal is listed as a US company people might want a european replacement for – and yet Signal represents european values much better than many of the alternatives.
[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38543155
See also: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39445976, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39414322, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32248062
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Are you pretending that projecting power across the Atlantic was not something done by the US to protect its own interests? You think US kept bases in Europe out of goodness? I am not sure if you are naive or just plain dumb. To be frank, I love that the US decided to sacrifice its own power, forcing Europe to prop up its own defense industry instead of giving money to the US so it would strengthen itself first and f…
you are talking about something else now. I responded to "we did it already" . afaik europe is still heavily dependent on usa and nothing actually has changed. can you stay on topic and not resort to personal insults.
And you might not be aware, but the EU just announced a hefty package to rearm itself. I wouldn't be surprised if in the comings months the US is out of NATO and those US bases in Europe are shut down.
And it is not really an insult, I still wonder if you are naive or dumb. I am friends with some very dumb people, it's not a character fault.