Why can't they release another mini version? I don't want a large phone!
It sold poorly, sadly.
Of course, since they gimped it. What about creating a smaller version laden with features...
Apple Debuts iPhone 16e
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Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e
#122Apple leans its weight heavily on controversial smartphone changes and defines trends for the rest of the industry, even when it's not the first company to do so. When it removed the headphone jack, introduced the screen notch, or added a camera bump, everyone followed afterward despite the grumbling.
So keeping that in mind, regarding the modem, I remember prior comments about it being near-impossible or extremely difficult for Apple to cut out Qualcomm because of the decentralized network of mobile towers, operators, proprietary information, legacy cruft, edge cases, hardware and geographical testing, etc., which Qualcomm handles as part of its value-add. If Apple starts spearheading changes in how phone modems work, could we imagine mobile towers playing along and converging? Or is it more entrenched than that?
Prior discussion
Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e
#123Check out the battery life!
> iPhone 16e has the best battery life ever on a 6.1-inch iPhone, lasting up to six hours longer than iPhone 11 and up to 12 hours longer than all generations of iPhone SE.
Their page comparing models claims the new 16e gets "26 hours video playback."
iPhone 16e: 26 hours
iPhone 16: 22 hours
iPhone 15: 20 hours
iPhone 14: 20 hours
iPhone 13: 19 hours
iPhone 12: 17 hours
iPhone 11: 17 hours
> Expanding the benefits of Apple silicon, C1 is the first modem designed by Apple and the most power-efficient modem ever on an iPhone, delivering fast and reliable 5G cellular connectivity. Apple silicon — including C1 — the all-new internal design, and the advanced power management of iOS 18 all contribute to extraordinary battery life.
Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e
#124Earlier quoted context omitted.
Isn't this the first time they have an actual zoom lens vs multiple lenses and thus CMOS? Edit: reading below it's still unsure if they actually have a lens that moves back & forth to achieve the zoom.
It's probably the same as the 2x zoom in the iPhone 16 line. The 1x pictures are a 48MP sensor that does some pixel-combining to output a 12MP image. The 2x pictures are a crop of 12MP in the center of the sensor, that doesn't do any combining. So it's still "optical", but it's lower-quality than the 1x.
I think it's not "zooming with the sensor", but has a slim lens stack to enable optical 2x zoom. The whole system is also PDAF, so they need the movement anyway.
Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e
#125It seems that this will cannibalize iPhone 16 sales - it's $200 cheaper, same form factor and internals, with the only difference being the camera, which if you care about you go for the Pro model. However, the price makes for a much more appealing upgrade for anyone who has an older iPhone
People love biggest phone for some reason regardless of features.
Hell, i want a smaller phone lol. I love the high end phones, i like my iPhone 16 Pro.. but man, this smaller one is tempting.
I don't think i'd give up the camera for it though.. but a boy can dream.
Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e
#126Still rocking my iPhone XR with zero plans to change or upgrade phones. If I did or were forced to upgrade I would most likely go for something like this or an older 12 or 14 with a few features as possible.
Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e
#127How possible is it for there to be a "disruptor" to the smartphone market? I think Apple's selling point is the app ecosystem, but I personally don't use apps all that much. Just a few big ones and they're all just for communication: FB Messenger, WhatsApp, SIM, SnapChat. And the web browser, maps. I'm 27. Why can't someone just manufacture a screen, some buttons, little computer, then software for communication and…
What would a disruptor in the smartphone space even do in 2025?
It's not like the status quo phones are too expensive, too small or too slow compared to the average user's use case. There is a phone for every price point, and at worst you'll be stuck with a bad camera or a laggy chipset.
There are already phones running Linux and de-Googled OSes (Purism, Librem, LineageOS). They won't ever get big enough to challenge Apple/Samsung, but maybe be big enough to have a stable enough OS to not scare off people looking to switch.
Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e
#128Is this a replacement for the "SE" line? It seems similar to the previous SE models in that it's cheaper, uses an older body, and is released in an off month. The marketing copy in the OP also compares it to the older SE phones. I am guessing that's the end of the small phone line at Apple.
I feel you're correct because this is the iPhone that appeals to me, and no new iPhone ever appeals to me.
Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e
#129Incredibly disappointing it’s so big. Bring back the small phones!! You’ll have to pry the 13 mini from my cold dead hands…or just stop supporting it
I agree.
My iPhone 12 Mini has seen better days, and I will need a new phone soon. It is disappointing that there is no alternative to the iPhone 12/13 Mini in 2025.
The smaller form factor is more comfortable in my hand, and fits better in my pockets. With the slim bezels, I have never felt that the screen was too small.
It is funny to think that the screen size on the iPhone 12 Mini is very similar to the screen size on the older plus models.
sigh