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South Korean regulator accuses DeepSeek of sharing user data with ByteDance

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Re: South Korean regulator accuses DeepSeek of sharing user data with ByteDance

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How-so less clear-cut? Mysterious and Chinesey so perhaps?

The ostensible business models of the companies at play. Stop looking at any opportunity to bark as Sinophobia.

Don't just restate it using different words! Precisely how's that different to the business models at play at Meta etc?

Re: South Korean regulator accuses DeepSeek of sharing user data with ByteDance

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Major Chinese tech companies often collaborate with government entities, potentially compromising user privacy. Given China's regulatory environment, where authorities can access data held by domestic firms, users worldwide should exercise caution when engaging with platforms from such backgrounds.

Re: South Korean regulator accuses DeepSeek of sharing user data with ByteDance

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post #60

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That won’t protect you from its propaganda/censorship. Some versions of DeepSeek’s models have bias built in - as in it’s not just implemented by their service/app. But offline does protect you from privacy/security issues.

>Some versions of DeepSeek’s models have bias built in Is this empirically supported? IME it doesn't hesitate to talk about Tienanmen Square or whatever, so if there's "bias" it must be very well hidden.

The 1.1B model which I used refuses to talk about Tienanmen Square.

Re: South Korean regulator accuses DeepSeek of sharing user data with ByteDance

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post #79

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In case this is not clear enough: you'd better come up with some real arguments with concrete evidence, or move on. Nobody has time for meaningless speculation.

This is a rare example where I actually think Meta should be providing the evidence, and not the other way around. When you have a history of doing greasy shit, you don't get the benefit of the doubt.

What evidence would be convincing?

Re: South Korean regulator accuses DeepSeek of sharing user data with ByteDance

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post #94

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How do you know that?

i'm the one who set the password security is not a requirement for many startups, velocity is

I have no idea why people are downvoting first-hand information. Take an upvote!

Re: South Korean regulator accuses DeepSeek of sharing user data with ByteDance

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I thought Apple disallowed apps using HTTP years ago?

Apple disallowed HTTP by default, you can flip a bit in the config to allowlist some/all endpoints to HTTP. Not clear what the App Store actually does when reviewing this info when you submit.

Despite their goal of enforcing in 2017, it is still not a hard requirement. Back then, about 80% of the apps we tested disabled ATS either partially or fully [1]. It’s rare to see Apple walk something back [2], but here is a blog at the time that talked about it [3].

[1] https://www.nowsecure.com/blog/2017/12/29/enable-ios-app-tra...

[2] https://developer.apple.com/news/?id=12212016b

[3] https://www.klundberg.com/blog/app-transport-security-delay/

Re: South Korean regulator accuses DeepSeek of sharing user data with ByteDance

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post #97

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How much did Zuckerberg pay for WhatsApp again?

If the argument is that there's no credible evidence, retorting with a vague question doesn't really help your case. If anything it reinforces the original claim that there's no credible evidence.

If Ruppert Murdoch bought an independent news agency, would you expect the agency to remain unbiased in their reporting?

Re: South Korean regulator accuses DeepSeek of sharing user data with ByteDance

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That's nice. I'll remember that next time I talk about beyblades to a friend in WhatsApp and see adds for them on Reddit the next day.

The truth is even worse; reddit has enough of a profile built on you that they can predict your penchant for beyblades without even needing your whatsapp chats.

Gasp! Even if I am only talking about the Beyblades on WhatsApp?

Re: South Korean regulator accuses DeepSeek of sharing user data with ByteDance

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post #65

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There's basically no credible evidence of this happening. All there is are vague anecdotes which are easily explained with confirmation bias and/or the birthday paradox.

Weird hill to die on, man. Like, sure credible evidence is one of the most important things in the world... but what, are you honestly saying that you're going to be surprised if WhatsApp turned out to be leaking data? We don't need the pitchforks just yet, sure, but shit, you have to remain realistic about these things.

>but what, are you honestly saying that you're going to be surprised if WhatsApp turned out to be leaking data?

Your words, not mine. I never made such claims, and you're trying to move the goalposts from "Meta does this" to "I'll be surprised if Meta does this".

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