Shouldn't this be the other way around? TikTok has the most user data for any LLM to train with. I bet they will make a killing with it, unless of course the CCP decrees that they share it for free.
South Korean regulator accuses DeepSeek of sharing user data with ByteDance
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Re: South Korean regulator accuses DeepSeek of sharing user data with ByteDance
#52This is my surprised face -_- If you're shocked or even the slightest bit surprised, then I can't imagine how blissful your life is to be so unaware about how much corporations are sharing data with each other. Like, I wholeheartedly expect that if I mention Beyblade toys on Facebook, then the next time I visit Amazon, they'll be suggesting Beyblades even if I've never even searched Amazon for toys, let alone Beyblad…
You could literally talk about beyblade toys on a whatsapp video call and you'll be getting Amazon ads for dem blades the next day.
WhatsApp is secured by Signal encryption
Re: South Korean regulator accuses DeepSeek of sharing user data with ByteDance
#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
From the 5th paragraph of the article, Americans are complaining: > Since then, multiple countries have warned that user data may not be properly protected, and in February a US cybersecurity company alleged potential data sharing between DeepSeek and ByteDance.
Alleging something is not complaining. It’s just…a statement. What do you want?
com·plain
/kəmˈplān/
express dissatisfaction or annoyance about something
Re: South Korean regulator accuses DeepSeek of sharing user data with ByteDance
#54This is my surprised face -_- If you're shocked or even the slightest bit surprised, then I can't imagine how blissful your life is to be so unaware about how much corporations are sharing data with each other. Like, I wholeheartedly expect that if I mention Beyblade toys on Facebook, then the next time I visit Amazon, they'll be suggesting Beyblades even if I've never even searched Amazon for toys, let alone Beyblad…
I recently had an experience that genuinely surprised me: I was watching a Peruvian video on YouTube, and I clicked on the creator's Instagram profile link in the description. Literally a few minutes later I received a promotional email with services and investment opportunities from an official Peruvian government email. Somehow opening an Instagram profile of a Peruvian creator got me tagged as a potential investor? But the most shocking part was how quickly this all happened.
Re: South Korean regulator accuses DeepSeek of sharing user data with ByteDance
#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
You could literally talk about beyblade toys on a whatsapp video call and you'll be getting Amazon ads for dem blades the next day.
WhatsApp is secured by Signal encryption
WhatsApp is a closed-source client that you cannot trust to faithfully and correctly implement the protocol, or be free of backdoors that allow Meta to snoop on your conversations.
Re: South Korean regulator accuses DeepSeek of sharing user data with ByteDance
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Am I (an American) "allowed" to complain if I also complain about the American tech industry doing the same thing? All of it is bad.
Re: South Korean regulator accuses DeepSeek of sharing user data with ByteDance
#57Re: South Korean regulator accuses DeepSeek of sharing user data with ByteDance
#58Some missing context is that the data is shared via the DeepSeek app's use of ByteDance analytics/configuration frameworks. So not a backroom deal where DeekSeek handed over the chat history for its user base, but rather ongoing analytics data being sent from the DeepSeek mobile app. Here's the SecurityScoreCard article that brought attention to this: https://securityscorecard.com/blog/a-deep-peek-at-deepseek/#... Be…
So Deepkseek is not sharing more data than most advertising-funded apps in the world?
Re: South Korean regulator accuses DeepSeek of sharing user data with ByteDance
#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, but they let you leverage it.
Which is in this case a pretty important distinction. Letting another company leverage user data within the bounding zone which you've defined is not the same thing as is being alleged here, which is actually sharing data. It's quite literally the difference between exposing a public API and actually handing over the contents of the database.
Facebook buys (well at least used to) buy data from other brokers. So you can think Bytedance = Facebook, Deepseek = data broker in this scenario.
Re: South Korean regulator accuses DeepSeek of sharing user data with ByteDance
#60Lol I'm so glad I'm running it offline with Ollama.
That won’t protect you from its propaganda/censorship. Some versions of DeepSeek’s models have bias built in - as in it’s not just implemented by their service/app. But offline does protect you from privacy/security issues.
>Some versions of DeepSeek’s models have bias built in
Is this empirically supported? IME it doesn't hesitate to talk about Tienanmen Square or whatever, so if there's "bias" it must be very well hidden.