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This was landing in a 30+ mph crosswind in one of the smallest commercial passenger aircraft
Plane crashes, overturns during landing at Toronto airport
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Clusters are normal in a random dataset
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#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not so much a theory as it is an attempt to understand what we already observe in the real world. Why is it that restaurants, barbers, car washes, and other small business industries have thrived for so long despite minimal regulation? One reason is the high competition. If you've ever run a restaurant, you know the importance of making customers happy. Because customers have so many other options to choose from…
Boar's Head is performing just fine, despite having the walls of their meatpacking facilities covered in flies and maggots . That killed eleven people last year, but guess what, every friggin' deli in the country is prominently displaying their products, and sales are doing great. And for all I know, half the other brands on the shelf are owned and operated by them. If it weren't for regulators, that facility would s…
We're actually in complete agreement over this scenario.
In my original comment, I discussed why you can't have no regulations in an industry that's highly concentrated.
Deregulating only works if and only if the underlying industry is highly competitive.
The meatpacking industry is not highly competitive: https://www.ers.usda.gov/amber-waves/2024/january/concentrat...
Hence, regulations are needed.
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#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
As a half-Libertarian, the problem with a lot of libertarian logic is that it's too black and white. Less government/regulation is good if and only if the underlying market is highly competitive. High competition protects consumers. Examples: restaurants, barbers, tailors, spas, almost anywhere small businesses exist. All ancient, well-functioning industries that are comparatively minimally regulated. The problem wit…
If you agree that all people are fundamentally "good". But that's not true, so the barber will start skimping on barbicide and people will start getting infections. We need regulation because people are not fundamentally "good", even if they mean well. I'm glad you're "half-libertarian" because you are halfway there!
It's not even a matter of "good" and "bad". Modern society is complicated and individuals cannot (and should not) be expected to study and understand every different ways in which it could kill people.
Like, why do we have maximum seating limits and doors that open outside? You could be a completely honorable restaurant owner, religiously clean the kitchen every day, and strive to give your patrons the best meal every day. And then one day an old wire shorts out, the restaurant catches fire, and people are trapped inside pushing against a door opening inward - something you've never even thought about the whole time. Everybody dies.
* Under libertarian thinking, once everybody dies the grieving families can take their business elsewhere, thus proving that we needed no regulations, after all.
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Toronto is in a different country than the FAA.
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#78Video from a passanger, the hull is upside down! https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=617972644350232
And another one https://old.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/1iruc70/vid... --- On a side note, it is crazy someone would take a selfie video before exiting a crashed airplane.
On a side note, it is crazy someone would take a selfie video before exiting a crashed airplane.
It's literally once in a lifetime, and it didn't look like anyone was in serious danger after they realised they'd survived.
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I know they need to control any possibility of a fire but man would it be a rude awakening to escape a significant plane crash, release your seatbelt while hanging upside down, make it to the exit door and then get sprayed in the face with cold water on a February day in Toronto.
They were flying from Minneapolis though. Maybe that’s just normal February weather for them?
Toronto is a good 20 degrees warmer than Minneapolis right now but we tend not to turn the sprinklers on in February for a little outside fun.
Also plenty of delta flights will layover at MSP.
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> I don't understand why... Spend some time talking to a Libertarian zealot. Not saying that you should believe any of their assertions. Let alone adopt their worldview. But you might get a sense of how less-government-is-always-better "logic" works.
I'm not sure what I would be called, but institutionalizing the perpetuation of a particular party using hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars through propaganda, favors, and kickbacks not only domestically but internationally is not my idea of good government.