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Re: Zed now predicts your next edit with Zeta, our new open model

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No they haven't done the job just fine. Remote X has always been a pain to set up, and slow. NX was much better but not free. Remote VSCode is far better than any of those options. If you don't want to try it that's fine, but don't pretend you know better.

What was so complicated about configuring an environment variable, and investing into good tooling like Hummingbird?

It was never as simple as configuring an environment variable.

Re: Zed now predicts your next edit with Zeta, our new open model

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post #218

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Is there anything worthwhile that costs the same now that it did 50 years ago?

Why is 50 years your timeframe? I'd be more curious about cost increases a year, two years down the line.

I used a long timeframe to illustrate that prices always change eventually.

Whether they change in 6 months or 24 months or 60 months is just a business decision of whether to trend towards continuous small increases or rare but larger jumps. The fundamental economic pressures that lead to higher prices in the long run are no different.

Re: Zed now predicts your next edit with Zeta, our new open model

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The wife finishing your sentences is an interesting analogy... My wife and I are usually on the same page about things, so for many topics we can use short-hand or otherwise cut discussions short. It's like in the movie _Hackers_: "It's in the place I put that thing that time." We can say just enough between us that we verify we have a shared state, and if we aren't sure we can verify and adjust. With an LLM, if what…

> The wife finishing your sentences is an interesting analogy... My wife and I are usually on the same page about things, so for many topics we can use short-hand or otherwise cut discussions short. My wife and I are just too different for this to happen. For the first 10 years or so we had the opposite happen a lot (multiple times a day for the first few years), where we thought we were on the same page, but had act…

Sure, it's not a given that a conversation with a spouse will be at a "we can complete each-others sentences" level every time, or even most of the time. My wife and I are pretty lucky in that regard.

And to bring it full circle, the LLMs aren't going to know where you're going in all cases. I've had REALLY poor luck getting LLMs (admittedly, a year ago) to help me with Python Textual UIs. I don't understand Textual enough, and they both don't seem to understand it well enough, and I think they also have a better understanding of archaic use of Textual (a fast moving target I get the impression).

My wife and I literally just had a conversation of shared knowledge: "I want to get back into the habit of doing more exercise. Those things like Pikmin and that other thing." "Yeah, I know what you mean." "You know what I'm talking about?" "Yeah, but I can't remember the name." "You know the one?" "Yeah, the insurance exercise incentive one, something-go or something." "Yeah, that's the one."

Re: Zed now predicts your next edit with Zeta, our new open model

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post #246

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From their overall FAQ: > Q: Will Zed be free? > A: Yes. Zed will be free to use as a standalone editor. We will instead charge a subscription for optional features targeting teams and collaboration. See "how will you make money?". > Q: How will you make money? > A: We envision Zed as a free-to-use editor, supplemented by subscription-based, optional network features, such as: - Channels and calls - Chat - Channel no…

for Cursor, if you use OpenAI api key for example, it's kinda cripple because the tab edit model is also proprietary.

And the usage limits still apply anyway.

Re: Zed now predicts your next edit with Zeta, our new open model

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At present it's not possible just via configuration, but you can configure a custom endpoint for both the assistant and inline assistant in settings.json. To get custom tab completions working you need to mimic one of the completion provider apis (like copilot) [1] and direct the requests to your own endpoint. In my case, I am running llama.cpp and and MITM-proxying to its newer /infill endpoint [2] That's why I ment…

that's cool. thanks. any chance you could open the changes you made?

I actually had a similar idea - and have a PR up on Zed right now to add in support for specifying a HTTP/HTTPS proxy to the copilot completion APIs: https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/pull/24364

Branch is a bit out of date vs main now but it should work if you build off it.

There are a couple of MITM proxies I've seen for this purpose, the first of which seems to be maintained: - https://github.com/bernardo-bruning/ollama-copilot/tree/mast... - https://github.com/jjleng/copilot-proxy

When I tried a few weeks back I was only able to get the latter to actually process requests, but haven't had a chance to look into it much further yet... first one's probably your best bet

Re: Zed now predicts your next edit with Zeta, our new open model

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As someone that is old enough to have used UNIX development servers for the whole company, with PC thin clients, reading about remote development as modern workflow is kind of hilarious.

Except doing it over LAN vs Internet is a very different thing - editing over SSH with >100 ping is annoying as hell, especially if you have packet drops (like a mobile connection). Using a thin client editor with remote server is a much smoother experience.

Use mosh??

Re: Zed now predicts your next edit with Zeta, our new open model

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post #295

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that's cool. thanks. any chance you could open the changes you made?

I actually had a similar idea - and have a PR up on Zed right now to add in support for specifying a HTTP/HTTPS proxy to the copilot completion APIs: https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/pull/24364 Branch is a bit out of date vs main now but it should work if you build off it. There are a couple of MITM proxies I've seen for this purpose, the first of which seems to be maintained: - https://github.com/bernardo-bruni…

thank you. lemme take a look at that.

Re: Zed now predicts your next edit with Zeta, our new open model

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The sensitive readers please be advised, quite a bit of a rant and angry reactions coming in an overreacting style, please stop here if you are of the sensitive type. The comments are unrelated to this particular product but aimed at the universal approach of the broad topic nowadays. Zero intent of offending anyone specific person is attempted. I am fed up with all these predicting what I want to do. Badly!! Don't g…

Go hug your wife

You found the core of the topic, locked on the main meaning instantly and with no error, congratulations for this increadibly sharp insight! :/

Re: Zed now predicts your next edit with Zeta, our new open model

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post #280

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It’s not exactly the same paradigm as remote editing, but neovim in tmux accessed over mosh is my preferred way of accomplishing the same task. I have also gotten a neovim gui to connect with a neovim instance over ssh, which worked pretty well until the ssh connection broke. But I prefer my editor in a terminal rather than terminals in my editor, so I switched back to my tmux based workflow.

If you are already using tmux, what is the value of using mosh? Sincere question.

Basically the benefit is not losing context when I close my laptop lid or if I lose network briefly. I actually use multiple tmux sessions in my workflow, so it also saves me having to remember which one I was working in. This is especially useful if I am on a spotty connection such as tethered through my phone.

Re: Zed now predicts your next edit with Zeta, our new open model

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> Where did you get the impression they only have support for autocomplete for Java? I’ve used Zed.

I'm happily using zed with autocomplete in rust / python / php / javascript / go -- I forget which ones were built-in and which were a one-click "I see you're opening an X file, would you like to download the X language server?" but they all work

Cool, then that must mean it exists for Java aswell, must find it!
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