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Zed now predicts your next edit with Zeta, our new open model

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Re: Zed now predicts your next edit with Zeta, our new open model

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Post by linsomniac »

mihaaly wrote: post #39

The sensitive readers please be advised, quite a bit of a rant and angry reactions coming in an overreacting style, please stop here if you are of the sensitive type. The comments are unrelated to this particular product but aimed at the universal approach of the broad topic nowadays. Zero intent of offending anyone specific person is attempted. I am fed up with all these predicting what I want to do. Badly!! Don't g…

The wife finishing your sentences is an interesting analogy... My wife and I are usually on the same page about things, so for many topics we can use short-hand or otherwise cut discussions short. It's like in the movie _Hackers_: "It's in the place I put that thing that time." We can say just enough between us that we verify we have a shared state, and if we aren't sure we can verify and adjust.

With an LLM, if what I'm starting to say gives it a direction on where I'm going, I'd like to see what it thinks, so if it's largely or entirely right I can just continue on.

For example, I just asked ChatGPT o3-mini to complete the code "def download_uri_to_file(", and it came up with the entire function including type annotations, a very reasonable docstring, error handling, and streaming download. In fact, reviewing the code I'm sure it's better than I would have written the first pass through (I probably wouldn't have done the error handling or the streaming (unless I knew up front that I was going to be downloading huge files).

Re: Zed now predicts your next edit with Zeta, our new open model

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Post by pritambarhate »

botanical76 wrote: post #165
gkbrk wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is someone forcing you at gunpoint to use AI autocomplete while you code? If you think it's not good, just don't use it.

Well, I notice there is a lot of pressure in organizations for individual developers to start making use of these tools. I was already using AI extensively before my company picked up on it, so it doesn't really affect me negatively, but I notice some of my coworkers starting to ask questions like "Do I have to use it?". The status quo seems to imply that you {refuse to accept change,aren't willing to grow,aren't int…

If an employee demonstrates the same level of productivity without using AI, most managers would likely be fine with that approach. However, if a manager observes that several team members are more productive with AI and are achieving business goals more quickly, they will naturally expect everyone to adopt it. Those who refuse to use AI and cannot match the efficiency of their peers may eventually be replaced. While this outcome may be emotionally challenging, economic realities primarily drive these decisions.

Re: Zed now predicts your next edit with Zeta, our new open model

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Post by tripplyons »

thomascountz wrote: post #35

If you were looking for the configuration like I was[1][2]: { "show_edit_predictions": , "edit_predictions": { "disabled_globs": [ ], "mode": }, "features": { "edit_prediction_provider": } } [1]: https://zed.dev/docs/completions [2]: https://zed.dev/docs/configuring-zed#edit-predictions

Thanks for sharing, it would have taken me some time to find this. It should really be included in the article.

Re: Zed now predicts your next edit with Zeta, our new open model

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Post by SkiFire13 »

lionkor wrote: post #47

> Edit prediction won't be free forever, but right now we're just excited to share and learn. I love Zed, and I'm happy to pay for AI stuff, but I won't be using this until they are done with their rug pull. Once I know how much it costs, I can decide if I want to try integrating it into my workflow. Only THEN will I want to try it, and would be interested in a limited free trial, even just 24 hours. Considering I've…

Even if you know how much it costs, how can you be sure they won't increase the price later on?

Re: Zed now predicts your next edit with Zeta, our new open model

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Post by dgacmu »

fredoliveira wrote: post #170
dgacmu wrote: post #125

As a slight tangent, this prompted me to wonder about one of the things I _haven't_ enjoyed in my last two weeks of experimenting with zed: It tries to autocomplete comments for me. Hands off - that's where I think! Fortunately, zed somewhat recently added options to disable these: "edit_predictions_disabled_in": ["comment"], "inline_completions_disabled_in": ["comment"] My life with zed just got a little better. If…

FYI, it looks like inline_completions_disabled_in is no longer a thing :-)

Ahh, I see - it looks like in the newer version it is being replaced by just edit_predictions_disabled_in.

Thanks!

Re: Zed now predicts your next edit with Zeta, our new open model

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Post by windward »

daliusd wrote: post #124
boxed wrote: post #3

I tried CoPilot a while and my biggest gripe was tab for accepting the suggestion. I very often got a ton of AI garbage when I was just trying to indent some code. Tab just doesn't seem like the proper interface for something like this.

Yes, copilot's tab in vim is that made me think that AI is useless. However next iteration of AI coding tools made me rethink this (I am using https://github.com/olimorris/codecompanion.nvim with nvim now).

AI coding tool implementers seem to be fans of novel editor fonts.

Re: Zed now predicts your next edit with Zeta, our new open model

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Post by fultonb »

I got beta access to this and love it. It is much more useful than copilot by itself and very useful for an edit that is a little repetitive. I wish I could run the model locally and given that is open source and they have support for Ollama and other OSS tools, I feel like that would be an amazing feature.

Re: Zed now predicts your next edit with Zeta, our new open model

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Post by autobodie »

SkiFire13 wrote: post #185
lionkor wrote: post #47

> Edit prediction won't be free forever, but right now we're just excited to share and learn. I love Zed, and I'm happy to pay for AI stuff, but I won't be using this until they are done with their rug pull. Once I know how much it costs, I can decide if I want to try integrating it into my workflow. Only THEN will I want to try it, and would be interested in a limited free trial, even just 24 hours. Considering I've…

Even if you know how much it costs, how can you be sure they won't increase the price later on?

Even if I know I am alive, how can I be sure I won't die later on?

Re: Zed now predicts your next edit with Zeta, our new open model

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Post by DemetriousJones »

orf wrote: post #112
DemetriousJones wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of my biggest gripes with python is the fact that the only way to create a local scope for variables is with functions. I understand if statements not having their own scope for simplicity's sake, but the fact that `with` blocks don't is simply mind-bobbling to me. ``` with open("text.txt", 'w') as f: f.write("hello world") f.write("hello world") # at least the handle was automatically closed so it will give an I…

It’s actually very useful to have context managers outlive their with blocks. They are not only used for files: One example would be a timing context manager: with Timer() as t: … print(t.runtime) Another example is mocks, where you want to inspect how many times a mock was called and with what arguments, after the mock context manager has finished.

I know it makes sense in the "scope-less" python philosopy but it still feels weird for me as a scope (ab)user in C++ and has caused me one headache or two in the past
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