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Tesla sales plummet in the UK, France, and Germany

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Re: Tesla sales plummet in the UK, France, and Germany

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Vaguely related, Paul Graham tweeted "I worry Elon has no idea how much he has damaged his personal brand ...", re UK stuff and Elon posted a pages of text rant as a result. Not sure if it was written by him or Grok. I worry Elon's going a bit bonkers with drugs or whatever. Conversation here: https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1879785727468163505

Arguably better UI to the same thing: https://xCANCEL.com/elonmusk/status/1879785727468163505

Which I've found to be hilarious btw. :-)

Re: Tesla sales plummet in the UK, France, and Germany

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Thank you for respectfully disagreeing. Will you elaborate so that I can hear a different perspective?

Are you actually serious? Did you not happen to see him perform multiple nazi salutes on live TV, during the inauguration of the president of the world's largest economy? That was Jan 21st. Before then, I was only aware that he was a bit of a dick online. Now he's radioactive, and with very good reason. He's an evil person who I will do everything I can to not enable.

Yes, it was a serious question, because even before his public Nazi salutes, he already had a history of anti-Semitic tweets online, which were later widely reported in many media outlets, such as the BBC. (I don't use Twitter, and never have, and yet I was aware of his racist viewpoints.) Tesla factories in the USA were also known for poor treatment of black employees. Thus I didn't see his Nazi salutes as surprising behaviour. Shocking, yes, and very repehensible, but unfortunately not surprising.

Re: Tesla sales plummet in the UK, France, and Germany

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post #124

Vaguely related, Paul Graham tweeted "I worry Elon has no idea how much he has damaged his personal brand ...", re UK stuff and Elon posted a pages of text rant as a result. Not sure if it was written by him or Grok. I worry Elon's going a bit bonkers with drugs or whatever. Conversation here: https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1879785727468163505

Wow, that thread is something else. So genuine question: is Musk actually addicted to drugs? Or a frequent user? I keep seeing that around, but I don't know if it's more a joke/meme or serious? My theory is that after he bought Twitter he no longer had to abide by the rules (since he owns the thing), and combined with his wealth basically no one ever says "no Elon, you can't do that" or "you idiot, that's fucking men…

Musk had lost it long before Twitter, his K problems were obvious at Tesla, which is one of the reasons I never purchased one.

If you didn't see all the instability when he was calling folks paedos because they were saving lives, while he was snorting whatever he could find, then I'm not sure what else to say. It was never going to end well, yet techbros pumped up his bad ideas and feeding the ego.

How well is the Boring Company coming along?

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Chinese have far better and cheaper EV cars. Getting spare parts for Tesla in Europe is a nightmare!

Other than BYD, I would be very worried about getting spare parts for Chinese cars as well. Most of those car companies are in a very bad financial situation, in a country where the rest of the country is saddled with a crazy amount of shadow debt as well.

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That’s ridiculous. Can you name examples where he is signaling Nazism (except the Salut). Have you watched any long form podcasts of him?

Supporting Afd neo-Nazi party shouldn't count right. For clarity, leader of the AfD party has twice been fined by a German court for using banned Nazi slogan. Musk thinks, keep on giving these guys comfort and support.. no one is gonna notice.

Getting fined by the speech police isn't the gotcha you think it is

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post #206
post #124

Vaguely related, Paul Graham tweeted "I worry Elon has no idea how much he has damaged his personal brand ...", re UK stuff and Elon posted a pages of text rant as a result. Not sure if it was written by him or Grok. I worry Elon's going a bit bonkers with drugs or whatever. Conversation here: https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1879785727468163505

Wow, that thread is something else. So genuine question: is Musk actually addicted to drugs? Or a frequent user? I keep seeing that around, but I don't know if it's more a joke/meme or serious? My theory is that after he bought Twitter he no longer had to abide by the rules (since he owns the thing), and combined with his wealth basically no one ever says "no Elon, you can't do that" or "you idiot, that's fucking men…

He has a prescription for Ketamine and is probably an occasional other stuff. Of course you don't quite know. The best source is probably the wsj article https://archive.ph/zcAdE . Says "LSD, cocaine, ecstasy and psychedelic mushrooms, often at private parties".

My sisters first boyfriend went permanently nuts from mostly that list. I think it was a toxic mushroom that flipped him.

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post #206

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Wow, that thread is something else. So genuine question: is Musk actually addicted to drugs? Or a frequent user? I keep seeing that around, but I don't know if it's more a joke/meme or serious? My theory is that after he bought Twitter he no longer had to abide by the rules (since he owns the thing), and combined with his wealth basically no one ever says "no Elon, you can't do that" or "you idiot, that's fucking men…

Musk had lost it long before Twitter, his K problems were obvious at Tesla, which is one of the reasons I never purchased one. If you didn't see all the instability when he was calling folks paedos because they were saving lives, while he was snorting whatever he could find, then I'm not sure what else to say. It was never going to end well, yet techbros pumped up his bad ideas and feeding the ego. How well is the Bo…

Boring Company so so and the cars and rockets did quite well. He may have mucked up the cars just recently though.

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Most people don't need or want FSD. They want an actual steering wheel and an actual stalk in order to activate turn signals. They want reliable well-made electric vehicles that don't take long to repair. Musk has spent many billions of dollars building something his target market doesn't require. Tesla does not currently have product-market fit. Musk should resign his board and CEO positions and stop interfering wit…

people might even want fsd if it worked… except of course it only works on the highway and my 1986 hyundai had cruise control that did 93% of what tesla’s “f”sd does

Look up videos on YouTube before commenting

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Looking at all those tech people going nuts I really wonder if it might be finasteride or minoxidil having side effects we don't know yet. Sure, people got the brain eating bug in the past, too, but it seems nowadays it is much more common.

For Musk, it's reportedly pretty well-known drugs: Ketamine, LSD, magic mushrooms. Spiegel (~German equivalent of Time magazine) article about it https://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/unternehmen/elon-musk-soll...

(Actually, LSD isn't in the article, sorry. But it's not that different from the mushrooms anyway.)

Re: Tesla sales plummet in the UK, France, and Germany

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>Tesla does not currently have product-market fit. Yet, it sells the best selling car on Earth.

> Yet, it sells the best selling car on Earth. A lot of that is selling just 2 mass-market models. And it only barely beats out the Toyota Corolla, except that Toyota also sells the third highest volume model (the RAV-4) and the 8th (the Camry).

>It only barely beats out the Toyota Corolla

"Only" does a lot here.

The Corolla is the #1 product of a century-old conglomerate. Tesla started mass-producing cars less than 17 years ago.

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