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Microsoft deletes official Windows 11 CPU/TPM bypass for unsupported PCs

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Re: Microsoft deletes official Windows 11 CPU/TPM bypass for unsupported PCs

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Post by ValentineC »

bell-cot wrote: post #64
throwacct wrote: post #40

I don't regret switching to mac 2 years ago.

How long does Apple keep updating MacOS's for older hardware? That I'm aware, there are iPhone models that were discontinued (Vs. Windows 10 is just under 10 years old now - and I don't know what's the newest Windows 10 system that can't update to Window 11.)

The annoying thing about macOS for legacy users is that they're regularly shut out of new Swift-based apps as developers either use newer Swift features, or just don't have enough resources or patience to keep around older Xcode versions.

I'm still on macOS Ventura (13.x), and am already seeing numerous apps with a minimum version of 14.x or 15.x.

Re: Microsoft deletes official Windows 11 CPU/TPM bypass for unsupported PCs

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Post by freeone3000 »

mixmastamyk wrote: post #170
globular-toast wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I see people waking up now I wonder what's taken them so long. I could see this 15 years ago and jumped off Windows at that point. Been using Linux ever since. It's become so easy since then I've intentionally made my life more difficult by switching to Gentoo about 5 years ago. I'm so glad none of my work is locked into the products of rent seeking companies like Microsoft. It was easier for me because 15 years…

Indeed, the security shenanigans around XP are what convinced me to finally move over. “Better formatting” is not nearly enough to stay in an abusive relationship.

How the documents look is everything. That’s what separates desktop publishing like Word from Notepad. The documents have to look the same and have to print the same. Legal cases depend on it. Academic submissions depend on it (Nature Communications template is not latex, it is word). This is not something that can be omitted.

Re: Microsoft deletes official Windows 11 CPU/TPM bypass for unsupported PCs

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Post by [deleted] »

Croftengea wrote: post #165
kjellsbells wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would it is a combination of metric-stuffing, land grab, and genuine concern about security. Metric stuffing. Everyone at Microsoft is graded on "impact". All the EVP-types at Microsoft have their eye on boldface jobs, so they need a track record of massive impact. Beimg able to claim that they got W11 from X billion devices to Y is how theyll be judged. Another example is how in Azure, the only metric that matters…

> Security. Ironically, TPM requirement comes from the same company that invented logging your screen every few seconds and storing it unencrypted and without your consent.

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Re: Microsoft deletes official Windows 11 CPU/TPM bypass for unsupported PCs

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Post by ryao »

t_mann wrote: post #77

Windows 11 looks like the perfect reason to give UNIX-based systems another try. Literally the only thing that's kept me hooked to Windows are the Office apps. They're baked into so many of my workflows, from creating simple graphics to doing my personal finances, and of course plenty of legacy documents that I'd like to continue being able to use. They're really Windows-native I've found, even the official versions…

You can install Office 2016 in Wine. The newer versions have some sort of DRM that is illegal for Wine to support.

Re: Microsoft deletes official Windows 11 CPU/TPM bypass for unsupported PCs

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Post by ranger_danger »

Kokouane wrote: post #99

Still feels like the solution here is just using Windows 10 IoT LTSC to avoid all this madness. It's a bloated product that feels worse to use than Windows 10, plain and simple.

Windows 11 IoT Enterprise 24H2 (LTSC and non), very officially does not require TPM.

Re: Microsoft deletes official Windows 11 CPU/TPM bypass for unsupported PCs

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Post by dsp_person »

lenova wrote: post #113
t_mann wrote: post #77

Windows 11 looks like the perfect reason to give UNIX-based systems another try. Literally the only thing that's kept me hooked to Windows are the Office apps. They're baked into so many of my workflows, from creating simple graphics to doing my personal finances, and of course plenty of legacy documents that I'd like to continue being able to use. They're really Windows-native I've found, even the official versions…

Long-time Windows user here that made the jump from Windows 11+WSL to Linux a few months ago. After test driving a few distros, I settled on CachyOS (an Arch-based distro)[1]. Performance wise it's smooth as heck, and Geekbench scores show it performing better than Win11 across the board. The default install uses KDE Plasma for its desktop, which is a perfect fit for Windows users like myself in terms of UX/UI. For a…

recent concerns from https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/onlyoffice

>> Since Qt5 is now already outdated,

> Yes, every dependency onlyoffice uses is outdated. They even use v8 8.9 that doesn't include any security patches. They also uses outdated CEF binary downloaded from an http url and doesn't check its integrity at all. Even worse, that CEF binary might be closed source as suggested by dbermond in https://github.com/ONLYOFFICE/DesktopEditors/issues/1664

> I would advise anyone who uses onlyoffice to avoid opening any untrusted documents with it. It appears that onlyoffice upstream doesn't care about security at all. See https://github.com/ONLYOFFICE/DesktopEditors/issues/1664 for more details

Re: Microsoft deletes official Windows 11 CPU/TPM bypass for unsupported PCs

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Post by im3w1l »

colejohnson66 wrote: post #76
heroprotagonist wrote: post #41

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What kind of conspiracy theory is this? A TPM stores keys and releases them upon attestation. How does that allow offloaded processing?

I don't believe in his theory, but running software on someone elses machine clearly benefits from attestation. Otherwise how can you be sure they run what they are told?

Re: Microsoft deletes official Windows 11 CPU/TPM bypass for unsupported PCs

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Post by bigstrat2003 »

graemep wrote: post #176
Alifatisk wrote: post #72

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> The popular distros are just as functional out of the box as Windows Give me some names that works out of the box and resembles Windows. I have not tried Linux mint so I don't know how well it works for older people. Ubuntu has been quite good and stable but it has also required fiddling with the terminal. The only one I found to be the best alternative to Windows is ... believe it or not, DeepinOS.

Why is resembles Windows important? Macos does not and is doing fine, so is Chromeos, so is Android. Even Windows can be quite different from older versions of Windows.

Because if you wish to convince people they should switch from Windows, that's a very important factor. People do not like change, and they want the skills they have to transfer over as much as possible.
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