Hear me out: the web / oss community could absolutely band together and rebrand JavaScript. Could be: LiveScript, WebScript, etc. There would be good support and we could do it fairly swiftly. To hell with Oracle.
Oracle justified its JavaScript trademark with Node.js–now it wants that ignored
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Re: Oracle justified its JavaScript trademark with Node.js–now it wants that ignored
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wouldn't say 2019 is particularly old. I didn't even know IE still existed at the time - I thought it had been replaced by Edge.
Believe it or not IE was still supported in some capacity until 2022, and the underlying Trident engine is still supported until at least 2029. Edge has an official "IE Mode" which switches the backend from Chromium to Trident, effectively turning it into IE with a modern skin. Microsoft support lifecycles are no joke.
Except for Mail and Calendar that they randomly decided to murder and replace with some Outlook webapp garbage.
Re: Oracle justified its JavaScript trademark with Node.js–now it wants that ignored
#43I've always been fascinated by Larry Ellison ever since I read his biography (God something something). What's insane is how much of the culture he controls. In tech and outside. He's about to own the largest entertainment company, he owns some of the best real estate in the world, and he owns MySQL and Java. Genius (or maybe evil genius).
[0] - God doesn't think he's Larry Ellison
Re: Oracle justified its JavaScript trademark with Node.js–now it wants that ignored
#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
Believe it or not IE was still supported in some capacity until 2022, and the underlying Trident engine is still supported until at least 2029. Edge has an official "IE Mode" which switches the backend from Chromium to Trident, effectively turning it into IE with a modern skin. Microsoft support lifecycles are no joke.
>Microsoft support lifecycles are no joke. Except for Mail and Calendar that they randomly decided to murder and replace with some Outlook webapp garbage.
Re: Oracle justified its JavaScript trademark with Node.js–now it wants that ignored
#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wouldn't say 2019 is particularly old. I didn't even know IE still existed at the time - I thought it had been replaced by Edge.
Believe it or not IE was still supported in some capacity until 2022, and the underlying Trident engine is still supported until at least 2029. Edge has an official "IE Mode" which switches the backend from Chromium to Trident, effectively turning it into IE with a modern skin. Microsoft support lifecycles are no joke.
Re: Oracle justified its JavaScript trademark with Node.js–now it wants that ignored
#46Just call it ECMAScript and forget about "Java". "JavaScript" was not a good choice of name to begin with. The original JavaScript did not have much in common with Java.
Re: Oracle justified its JavaScript trademark with Node.js–now it wants that ignored
#47Clown world. We go about thinking our legal system might have some flaws but generally "works"
Re: Oracle justified its JavaScript trademark with Node.js–now it wants that ignored
#48> The major implementations of JavaScript are in the browsers built by Mozilla, Google, Apple, and Microsoft
Isn't MS's browser just Chromium? Weird to add them to the list when they don't build a browser any more. Why not add Brave, etc?
Re: Oracle justified its JavaScript trademark with Node.js–now it wants that ignored
#49Re: Oracle justified its JavaScript trademark with Node.js–now it wants that ignored
#50Maybe I’m missing something… I get it that Oracle is in the wrong but I’m still not sure why get in this trademark fight anyhow. I would personally leave it to someone with much larger pockets like Microsoft to deal with.
edit: Microsoft or other companies have no financial benefit on that fight. Even Deno itself has no financial benefit as well. This fight is for goodwill but not justifiable for financial terms (unless you can be the next owner of JavaScript trademark)