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Oracle justified its JavaScript trademark with Node.js–now it wants that ignored

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Re: Oracle justified its JavaScript trademark with Node.js–now it wants that ignored

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Post by davidsojevic »

kingforaday wrote: post #4

Anyone else read the article and say Oracle JET? What is that?

First time I'd ever heard of it too; I ran straight to Google and it only came up with results for "Breville Oracle Jet Espresso Machine" which interestingly enough Breville seem to hold a trademark on "Oracle" itself in the machines and tools class!

Re: Oracle justified its JavaScript trademark with Node.js–now it wants that ignored

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Post by tom1337 »

kingforaday wrote: post #4

Anyone else read the article and say Oracle JET? What is that?

Yea their CLI has 510 Weekly Downloads on npm and JET itself nearly 1000.

https://www.npmjs.com/package/@oracle/ojet-cli https://www.npmjs.com/package/@oracle/oraclejet

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Post by jsheard »

xmprt wrote: post #5
LorenDB wrote: post #2

The best part of this article for me was seeing that Oracle's screenshots were taken in IE. Yes, those are old by now, but it's still a blast from the past.

I wouldn't say 2019 is particularly old. I didn't even know IE still existed at the time - I thought it had been replaced by Edge.

Believe it or not IE was still supported in some capacity until 2022, and the underlying Trident engine is still supported until at least 2029. Edge has an official "IE Mode" which switches the backend from Chromium to Trident, effectively turning it into IE with a modern skin. Microsoft support lifecycles are no joke.

Re: Oracle justified its JavaScript trademark with Node.js–now it wants that ignored

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Post by steve_adams_86 »

29athrowaway wrote: post #14

Just call it ECMAScript and forget about "Java". "JavaScript" was not a good choice of name to begin with. The original JavaScript did not have much in common with Java.

Brendan Eich said "ECMAScript was always an unwanted trade name that sounds like a skin disease". I think the general sentiment is shared fairly broadly.

Re: Oracle justified its JavaScript trademark with Node.js–now it wants that ignored

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Post by [deleted] »

steve_adams_86 wrote: post #15
29athrowaway wrote: post #14

Just call it ECMAScript and forget about "Java". "JavaScript" was not a good choice of name to begin with. The original JavaScript did not have much in common with Java.

Brendan Eich said "ECMAScript was always an unwanted trade name that sounds like a skin disease". I think the general sentiment is shared fairly broadly.

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Re: Oracle justified its JavaScript trademark with Node.js–now it wants that ignored

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Post by 29athrowaway »

steve_adams_86 wrote: post #15
29athrowaway wrote: post #14

Just call it ECMAScript and forget about "Java". "JavaScript" was not a good choice of name to begin with. The original JavaScript did not have much in common with Java.

Brendan Eich said "ECMAScript was always an unwanted trade name that sounds like a skin disease". I think the general sentiment is shared fairly broadly.

When JavaScript was created, Java was a trademark of Sun Microsystems.

Then Oracle acquired Sun, and with it, the trademark to Java.

And then this crap started. That was the moment to drop "Java" from the name, everyone knows exactly why.

Re: Oracle justified its JavaScript trademark with Node.js–now it wants that ignored

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Post by profsummergig »

I've always been fascinated by Larry Ellison ever since I read his biography (God something something).

What's insane is how much of the culture he controls. In tech and outside. He's about to own the largest entertainment company, he owns some of the best real estate in the world, and he owns MySQL and Java.

Genius (or maybe evil genius).

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Post by threecheese »

kingforaday wrote: post #4

Anyone else read the article and say Oracle JET? What is that?

The npm package for Oracle JET, with ~1000 weekly downloads, has four dependent packages on npm, and if you walk down the dependency tree it’s nearly entirely other Oracle packages or long dead demos/one-shots.

That 1,000 weekly downloads could be entirely from CI pipelines for those other Oracle projects.

The phone call is coming from inside the house, Larry!

Re: Oracle justified its JavaScript trademark with Node.js–now it wants that ignored

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Post by realusername »

tom1337 wrote: post #12
kingforaday wrote: post #4

Anyone else read the article and say Oracle JET? What is that?

Yea their CLI has 510 Weekly Downloads on npm and JET itself nearly 1000. https://www.npmjs.com/package/@oracle/ojet-cli https://www.npmjs.com/package/@oracle/oraclejet

In the Node world that's basically a side project of a single dev.
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