Anyone else read the article and say Oracle JET? What is that?
First time I'd ever heard of it too; I ran straight to Google and it only came up with results for "Breville Oracle Jet Espresso Machine" which interestingly enough Breville seem to hold a trademark on "Oracle" itself in the machines and tools class!
Oracle justified its JavaScript trademark with Node.js–now it wants that ignored
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Re: Oracle justified its JavaScript trademark with Node.js–now it wants that ignored
#32Just call it ECMAScript and forget about "Java". "JavaScript" was not a good choice of name to begin with. The original JavaScript did not have much in common with Java.
“LiveScript” wasn’t bad. They really did aim to make JS a scripting system for Java tho, through the LiveConnect Bridge. Unfortunately LiveConnect was a buggy POS. MS had a similar thing going on that was less buggy, but IE-only of course.
So yeah, I don’t miss LiveConnect. Let’s just call it “WebScript” or something.
Re: Oracle justified its JavaScript trademark with Node.js–now it wants that ignored
#33Just call it ECMAScript and forget about "Java". "JavaScript" was not a good choice of name to begin with. The original JavaScript did not have much in common with Java.
Brendan Eich said "ECMAScript was always an unwanted trade name that sounds like a skin disease". I think the general sentiment is shared fairly broadly.
Javascript is used so widely now that calling it just “Script” is probably fair and would be a lot harder to trademark
Re: Oracle justified its JavaScript trademark with Node.js–now it wants that ignored
#34The best part of this article for me was seeing that Oracle's screenshots were taken in IE. Yes, those are old by now, but it's still a blast from the past.
IE11 was still 6-years old at the time of that screenshot (based on the Node versions), and 3 months from EOL on pre-Windows 10.
Re: Oracle justified its JavaScript trademark with Node.js–now it wants that ignored
#35Lawyers on staff with nothing to do ATM…
Re: Oracle justified its JavaScript trademark with Node.js–now it wants that ignored
#36I've always been fascinated by Larry Ellison ever since I read his biography (God something something). What's insane is how much of the culture he controls. In tech and outside. He's about to own the largest entertainment company, he owns some of the best real estate in the world, and he owns MySQL and Java. Genius (or maybe evil genius).
There's a reason the joke is that "Oracle" stands for One Rich Asshole Called Larry Ellison.
The crazy thing is that ORACLE was a CIA program that Larry got a contract for. He named his company after it.
A genius aspect of Larry is that, like Steve Jobs (his best friend), he knew how to milk a gifted 50x programmer. There was a co-founder who did all the heavy code writing, while Larry did the schmoozing (not an unimportant job).
Re: Oracle justified its JavaScript trademark with Node.js–now it wants that ignored
#37Hear me out: the web / oss community could absolutely band together and rebrand JavaScript. Could be: LiveScript, WebScript, etc.
There would be good support and we could do it fairly swiftly. To hell with Oracle.
Re: Oracle justified its JavaScript trademark with Node.js–now it wants that ignored
#38Calling EMCAScript JavaScript was a huge mistake that is still biting us.
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#39Re: Oracle justified its JavaScript trademark with Node.js–now it wants that ignored
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
Brendan Eich said "ECMAScript was always an unwanted trade name that sounds like a skin disease". I think the general sentiment is shared fairly broadly.
When JavaScript was created, Java was a trademark of Sun Microsystems. Then Oracle acquired Sun, and with it, the trademark to Java. And then this crap started. That was the moment to drop "Java" from the name, everyone knows exactly why.
The issue is not with the "Java" trademark (also owned by Oracle), but the "JavaScript" trademark, which was issued to Sun in 1997.
JavaScript was released in 1996... and not at Sun.
i.e the Language and name both pre-date the trademark.