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Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by hbn » Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 5:20 PM UTC

piyuv wrote: post #525

nerdjon wrote: post #109

Happy to see that Nintendo is treating the switch more like how they traditionally handled their mobile platforms instead of their consoles. Iterating instead of throwing out everything with each new version. There is a part of me that is going to miss the, do weird shit and see what works, Nintendo that brought us some really fun ideas. But a stable Nintendo just being able to continue putting out great games has it…

Early leaks said screen was LCD, hoping for them to be wrong

They're optimizing for cost so I'd expect LCD. Then they can release an OLED model later down the line and the extra $50 won't seem as big of a deal on top of what we can probably already expect in the price bump from Switch 1.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by etwigg » Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 5:20 PM UTC

I think people are sleeping on Meta's compounding advantage in VR/AR. The Quest 3 is 15 months old, and it's wild how much it has improved over that time purely due to software and interaction model improvements. Aside from the recent bricking issue, I think the Meta Quest is accelerating at the OS level. I'm looking forward to Mario on Quest 4 or 5, but it will be a bit sad.

You can't see the shortcomings until you have the hardware, and once you solve those there is a next set of shortcomings. I think that road is longer and deeper than I had appreciated, Meta is the only company iterating fast enough to be serious about serving "normies".

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by johnwalkr » Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 5:21 PM UTC

chungy wrote: post #206

nerdjon wrote: post #109

Happy to see that Nintendo is treating the switch more like how they traditionally handled their mobile platforms instead of their consoles. Iterating instead of throwing out everything with each new version. There is a part of me that is going to miss the, do weird shit and see what works, Nintendo that brought us some really fun ideas. But a stable Nintendo just being able to continue putting out great games has it…

Nintendo has tended to maintain at most 1 generation of backwards compatibility, though you can get some fuzzy ideas of "generations" in a few cases. Game Boy Color: plays original Game Boy games Game Boy Advance: plays Game Boy and Game Boy Color games Nintendo DS: plays Game Boy Advance games Nintendo DSi: plays Nintendo DS games Nintendo 3DS: plays Nintendo DS and DSi games Nintendo New 3DS: plays Nintendo DS, DSi…

I almost forgot the switch doesn't play Wii U games, given that almost all Wii U games worth playing were also released for the Switch.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by 01HNNWZ0MV43FF » Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 5:22 PM UTC

m_fayer wrote: post #531

adamc wrote: post #481

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That last sentence is worth an essay of its own. Everyone else keeps pumping resources into being photo-realistic blah-blah-blah without nearly enough attention to "is this fun"?

Strongly agreed. When I think of the best Nintendo products the words “fun” and “play” spring to mind. AAA gaming on the other hand, either resembles sports, shallow short-form media, or Oscar-bait melodrama. Very little fun to be had. What ever happened to fun and play?

Fun doesn't map 1:1 into a trailer or a screenshot. Graphics do, voice acting, cutscenes, and big set pieces do.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by joseda-hg » Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 5:22 PM UTC

jeffhuys wrote: post #521

TingPing wrote: post #182

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Streaming in the same house still isn’t very good. Games are very latency sensitive.

Do you expect less than 7ms? Because that's my latency with Geforce Now. Almost unnoticable.

7ms is intra national ping, I have about half a continent to the closest GeForce Now and a bit more to the closest XCloud

200+ ms

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by philistine » Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 5:24 PM UTC

etwigg wrote: post #572

I think people are sleeping on Meta's compounding advantage in VR/AR. The Quest 3 is 15 months old, and it's wild how much it has improved over that time purely due to software and interaction model improvements. Aside from the recent bricking issue, I think the Meta Quest is accelerating at the OS level. I'm looking forward to Mario on Quest 4 or 5, but it will be a bit sad. You can't see the shortcomings until you…

The name of the game is the game. Meaning that hardware is popular insofar as the games that are on it. And Nintendo, with its massive war chest and toymaker history, will never turn into a third-party developper. They'll keep making their underpowered Nintendo machines, and good for them.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by hbn » Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 5:25 PM UTC

joshstrange wrote: post #446

parsimo2010 wrote: post #432

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For the last few generations (since the Wii), you don't buy a Nintendo for the processing power. They haven't competed on processing power since the Gamecube. After the Gamecube generation, you bought a Nintendo for the exclusive games and that was it. Mario, Pokemon, Zelda, and others. Nintendo knows that their draw is just the games, and uses a lot of lawyers to make sure that normal gamers can't play those games o…

I agree with you, for most people the Switch is the better/easier option if they are just looking to play a Nintendo-exclusive. Emulators aren't that difficult to set up on Steam Deck and you can easily launch the games from the Steam UI but nothing beats the plug and play of the Switch and double-y so if you are playing networked games.

And let's not forget the size and weight difference. It's a lot easier to slip into a bag, and it doesn't run super hot under load.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 5:25 PM UTC

etwigg wrote: post #572

I think people are sleeping on Meta's compounding advantage in VR/AR. The Quest 3 is 15 months old, and it's wild how much it has improved over that time purely due to software and interaction model improvements. Aside from the recent bricking issue, I think the Meta Quest is accelerating at the OS level. I'm looking forward to Mario on Quest 4 or 5, but it will be a bit sad. You can't see the shortcomings until you…

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Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by jamesgeck0 » Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 5:25 PM UTC

ben7799 wrote: post #514

ToucanLoucan wrote: post #198

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The Switch is genuinely one of the last pieces of hardware I was really excited about, and I can't say that about much anymore. It's extremely well put together, I've repaired mine a number of times with no issues (honestly opening anything made in Japan is a joy, the engineering is so good) and the specs leave a lot to be desired, which is unfortunate, but at the same time, you wouldn't know it while using it. The X…

We have a switch and an XBox and after liking the 360 back in the day the newer XBoxes just make me want to tear my hair out. They sold us all on bigger and bigger hardware to get rid of load times and they ended up with the system with the worst load times going all the way back to the 70s. Sometimes it seems like it takes 10 minutes to start up and actually play a game, and then there the updates. My son got a Forz…

Unfortunately the situation with needing to download huge updates is also occasionally present on the Switch. Several third party AAA games (EA sports titles come to mind) ship small cartridges and a require big downloads to the SD card to be playable. Switch game downloads (usually) aren't as large as Xbox/PlayStation downloads, but the wifi chip in the OG model was so slow, they might as well be.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by wk_end » Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 5:26 PM UTC

Disappointed that it doesn't look to fix the biggest issue I have with the Switch, which is that docking it feels awkward and clumsy. You have to blindly line up a USB-C port/connector, and that seems to be the same approach they're going with here. At least the Joycons look like they'll be a little smoother to attach/remove.