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Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by m_fayer » Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 4:44 PM UTC

adamc wrote: post #481

bargainbin wrote: post #468

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They’ve got the weird shit covered still, apparently the joy cons in this gen can be used as mice. Was heavily rumoured/leaked and this teaser video literally shows them gliding along a surface. How Nintendo will leverage that functionality, who could honestly say, but that’s the genius of keeping a toy company mindset in an industry full of sports car company mindsets.

That last sentence is worth an essay of its own. Everyone else keeps pumping resources into being photo-realistic blah-blah-blah without nearly enough attention to "is this fun"?

Strongly agreed. When I think of the best Nintendo products the words “fun” and “play” spring to mind.

AAA gaming on the other hand, either resembles sports, shallow short-form media, or Oscar-bait melodrama. Very little fun to be had.

What ever happened to fun and play?

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by isk517 » Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 4:45 PM UTC

isk517 wrote: post #518

wat10000 wrote: post #118

It seems like the days of revolutionary consumer electronics are over. This looks nice, for sure. But it’s really more of the same. Not surprising. It does surprise me that there’s such emphasis on it, though. There’s the name, of course, and then the entire video is based around “it’s the same thing but a little better.” Game console updates used to be big deals. The SNES was a revolution. PS2 was huge. Now… PS5? Wh…

>The SNES was a revolution Nintendo has actually stated they view the SNES as a evolution of the NES. They have directly stated their hardware development cycle goes Revolution>Evolution>Revolution. Considering that the Switch was considered one of their revolutionary leap (their first hybrid console) it is no surprise the Switch 2 is a simple evolution of that concept. If their next console is another iteration of t…

I apologize, I tried to find the interview were this was stated but unfortunately search engines are terrible now and no matter how hard I try I only get news about the Switch 2 or old stories about when the Wii has code named Revolution. Feel free to not take my word that this was actually stated.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by cma » Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 4:47 PM UTC

numpad0 wrote: post #487

CitrusFruits wrote: post #372

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People are speculating that you can use the controllers like a computer mouse. You can see an allusion to that towards the end of the video.

That sounds like such an obvious oversight with benefit of hindsight. They could have instantly plugged Valorant/Apex gateway into PC established by YT Live/Twitch through that if only they had it on the right joycon.

The Lenovo Legion Go I think has this for FPS games. Joycon like thing goes into a little slider adapter and becomes a vertical mouse.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by spencerflem » Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 4:49 PM UTC

ranger_danger wrote: post #530

spencerflem wrote: post #443

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People will know and care instantly when there's an easily accessible storefront like app with those games one click away and perfectly legal. Same reason excellent tools like Aseprite are no longer floss - it got packaged (legally) in Debian and others and why on earth would you go way out of your way to buy it, or even think that they might be trying to charge. I don't think games companies are against mods general…

I don't think a majority of people will even go to alternative storefronts to get the software in big enough numbers to matter. I think it's more of a legal concern than a monetary (sales) one, but I could be wrong.

I think you're right, as it stands now, especially for platforms like Android with one canonical store that already has many free offerings. I use fdroid because i love the philosoply and am willing to put up with it but to be clear, the apps there are unprofessional and ugly and I get why most people don't.

But if this became a common practice I think people absolutely would. Tons of professional quality games instantly available for free is such an incredibly good value.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by extraduder_ire » Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 4:49 PM UTC

darkwizard42 wrote: post #260

ChoGGi wrote: post #75

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Looks like the DS and switch both sold about 50m more units. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_game_co...

Yes, great source. filter that by Home vs the mobile category to see it is only beat by PlayStation. You could argue the Switch is a home console as well.

The switch may be kind of hard to count for home console sales, since the switch lite is a portable console (lacks hardware to use the dock) and may be included in some sales numbers.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by hedora » Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 4:53 PM UTC

isk517 wrote: post #518

wat10000 wrote: post #118

It seems like the days of revolutionary consumer electronics are over. This looks nice, for sure. But it’s really more of the same. Not surprising. It does surprise me that there’s such emphasis on it, though. There’s the name, of course, and then the entire video is based around “it’s the same thing but a little better.” Game console updates used to be big deals. The SNES was a revolution. PS2 was huge. Now… PS5? Wh…

>The SNES was a revolution Nintendo has actually stated they view the SNES as a evolution of the NES. They have directly stated their hardware development cycle goes Revolution>Evolution>Revolution. Considering that the Switch was considered one of their revolutionary leap (their first hybrid console) it is no surprise the Switch 2 is a simple evolution of that concept. If their next console is another iteration of t…

I’d be curious to know when they said that. It sounds like revisionist history to me.

Based on the switch launch video, the delta between the NES and SNES was much higher than Switch -> Switch 2.

Here’s an analogous snes ad, which spends most of its time showing off 3d and increased sprite counts:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eSBFw93V3Rg

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by nottorp » Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 4:55 PM UTC

koromak wrote: post #134

nerdjon wrote: post #109

Happy to see that Nintendo is treating the switch more like how they traditionally handled their mobile platforms instead of their consoles. Iterating instead of throwing out everything with each new version. There is a part of me that is going to miss the, do weird shit and see what works, Nintendo that brought us some really fun ideas. But a stable Nintendo just being able to continue putting out great games has it…

I just hope its powerful enough that Indies can target it along with the Steam Deck, rather than just hope an pray like they did for Switch 1's late lifecycle. The amount of <30fps indie titles on there was sad.

Unity's fault?

Unity also kinda killed playing indie games on a laptop (at least on battery) on x86...

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by RajT88 » Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 4:55 PM UTC

KeplerBoy wrote: post #405

RajT88 wrote: post #175

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Speaking of - does anyone know of an HTPC frontend which duplicates the look and feel of the Wii menu?

Who even runs HTPCs these days?

I was interested in disconnecting my smart TV from the internet and using a replacement which I am in complete control of.

As to "who", some part of the demographic who runs JellyFin/Plex/Etc.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by locallost » Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 4:56 PM UTC

criddell wrote: post #500

I hope I'll be able to pre-order one. I don't even care if they ship it right away. Promise me one within the first 2 or 3 years and I would be happy. I know I'm going to want one and I know they are going to be snapped up by scalpers and be hard to buy at first. Fine. I just don't want to go through the stupid check Amazon, then GameStop, then BestBuy, then Walmart dance. Just let me order one and then not worry abo…

I read recently their plan is to produce enough so they are always in stock.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by bloomingkales » Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 4:57 PM UTC

bargainbin wrote: post #468

nerdjon wrote: post #109

Happy to see that Nintendo is treating the switch more like how they traditionally handled their mobile platforms instead of their consoles. Iterating instead of throwing out everything with each new version. There is a part of me that is going to miss the, do weird shit and see what works, Nintendo that brought us some really fun ideas. But a stable Nintendo just being able to continue putting out great games has it…

They’ve got the weird shit covered still, apparently the joy cons in this gen can be used as mice. Was heavily rumoured/leaked and this teaser video literally shows them gliding along a surface. How Nintendo will leverage that functionality, who could honestly say, but that’s the genius of keeping a toy company mindset in an industry full of sports car company mindsets.

As a mice or a air mouse. The smart tv stuff is limited by a remote control from 1980 (more or less, what changed?). I'd make lifestyle apps for the switch if they enable it.