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Justin Trudeau promises to resign as PM

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Post by sangnoir »

stainablesteel wrote: post #304
Tiktaalik wrote: post #285

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lol this incredible hyperbole begs for explanation. The two main fumbles I can see of note are on housing and immigration. On immigration the government only made remarkable changes in the last two years, and as if they touched a hot stove, they already realized their mistake and have already scaled back immigration numbers so much that Canada will effectively have nil immigration for the near future. Not likely a ge…

canada got to the point that they can't turn off the immigration faucet, they need it for their economy to survive, but people have come to hate it so much that they can't maintain it, they're in for a collapse because of it

> people have come to hate it so much that they can't maintain it, they're in for a collapse because of it

Considering how post-Brexit Britain panned out, the people in charge of policy will be pragmatic and allow immigration to resume just to prevent immediate collapse under their watch, even if re-opening the immigration gates is unpopular.

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Post by mardifoufs »

throw0101d wrote: post #279
mardifoufs wrote: post #142

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Crazy how only Canada has used emergency powers to curtail opposition. In fact it did that twice in 50 years. And only twenty people getting their rights completely stripped because they bothered the federal government workers in Ottawa is good enough according to you? Maybe it's just because I'm part of a minority but your entire comment is exactly the issue with Canadian politics. We basically have 0 rights the mom…

> Crazy how only Canada has used emergency powers to curtail opposition. As opposed to using it to curtail support? It was used against occupiers and there is no Charter right to that (2011 ONSC 6862; 2024 ONSC 3755). > We basically have 0 rights rights the moment a majority decides that we don't. I guess that's the perks of having an incredibly ineffective constitution. Wat? * https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/csj-sjc/r…

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Post by deanCommie »

csense wrote: post #34

Patio11 has some good coverage of Trudeau's handling of the trucker protest against the government's handling of COVID-19 [1]. Whatever you think of the truckers' position or protest tactics, any punishment for their actions ought to go through the laws and court system. Trudeau instead essentially told the banking system "You can't do business with those people, they're terrorists." Patio11's words of what happened…

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Post by agentultra »

parthdesai wrote: post #298
throw0101d wrote: post #196

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> […] ought to go through the laws and court system. The Emergencies Act is part of the laws of Canada: * https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/e-4.5/ * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergencies_Act And there were court orders: * https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60356461 * 2022 ONSC 1001: https://www.canlii.org/en/on/onsc/doc/2022/2022onsc1001/2022... ; https://www.attorneygeneral.jus.gov.on.ca/english/doc…

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It's not a partisan issue.

The Charter is pretty clear on the limitations placed on protests.

If those truckers had dispersed within a day they would have been fine.

But they were accepting donations and foreign money in order to stay encamped and had no intention of dispersing.

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Post by mardifoufs »

toasteros wrote: post #200
mardifoufs wrote: post #142

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Crazy how only Canada has used emergency powers to curtail opposition. In fact it did that twice in 50 years. And only twenty people getting their rights completely stripped because they bothered the federal government workers in Ottawa is good enough according to you? Maybe it's just because I'm part of a minority but your entire comment is exactly the issue with Canadian politics. We basically have 0 rights the mom…

The guy likely to take over is going to use non-emergency powers to curtail the rights of trans people. The sanctioned individuals were involved with blocking an international border. They had the stated intention of causing mischief and preventing leaving or entering Canada. They were blockading their own economy; they deserved what they got. You don't disrupt life and economy just because you've been asked to help…

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Post by AnarchismIsCool »

blackeyeblitzar wrote: post #224

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Constitutionalism is whatever, but it is interesting how much more dogmatically divided Canada seems to be getting under the decidedly more authoritarian administration of Trudeau. Everyone's worried about violence and terrorism but terrorists are a, semantically, political construct and a product of authoritarianism and inequality.

I wonder what this says about where the US is headed..........

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Post by jeromegv »

parthdesai wrote: post #298
throw0101d wrote: post #196

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> […] ought to go through the laws and court system. The Emergencies Act is part of the laws of Canada: * https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/e-4.5/ * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergencies_Act And there were court orders: * https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60356461 * 2022 ONSC 1001: https://www.canlii.org/en/on/onsc/doc/2022/2022onsc1001/2022... ; https://www.attorneygeneral.jus.gov.on.ca/english/doc…

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They were not a "protesting" organization, they were an organized armed group with plans to attack the parliament, that's when they got taken down.

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Post by freedomben »

throw0101d wrote: post #286
jamie_ca wrote: post #236

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Offtopic to politics, but browsers these days support arbitrary text anchors. docs: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/URI/Fragment/Te... your link: https://www.bitsaboutmoney.com/archive/debanking-and-debunki...

> Offtopic to politics, but browsers these days support arbitrary text anchors. Find this extremely annoying, especially in search results: I want to start at the beginning of the article/post, and not some random place in the middle—which is where the highlighted snippet in the search results are from, but not helpful for learning the larger context. It also tends to mess up URLS that you may want to copy-paste as i…

Agreed. I'm in the minority I'm sure, but I think this is an anti-feature. In addition to your good points, it's also very fragile as a small change in the text of the page can break the link. It also leads to monstrous URLs that are quite hard to read for people who don't know about this feature.
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