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Re: Justin Trudeau promises to resign as PM

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Post by mlekoszek » Mon, Jan 06, 2025, 7:00 PM UTC

tokioyoyo wrote: post #280

krashidov wrote: post #270

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> and less-than-joking threats of annexation If Poilievre gets elected, will he willingly join the USA? It seems that the world is more and more aligned by political spectrum rather than national allegiance.

Not being a part of the states is our national identity. It’s just very fringe minority who dabbles with the idea of joining the USA.

I think the Overton window has become much easier to slide around with social media influence campaigns. If someone powerful wants something -- even if it's against everyone else's interests -- it's now much easier for them to drum up popular support for it through underhanded tactics. Remember that Brexit started as a joke.

Re: Justin Trudeau promises to resign as PM

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Post by staplers » Mon, Jan 06, 2025, 7:00 PM UTC

mardifoufs wrote: post #142

catgary wrote: post #93

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I think it’s worth noting that the weekend before this, local residents of Ottawa had basically “stormed” one of the trucker convoy camps to unblock a road. There were genuine concerns that the residents of Ottawa were ready to take matters into their own hands, and it would be a bloodbath. Not to mention the blockade in Alberta where they were found with guns and a pipe bomb, with their communications indicating the…

Crazy how only Canada has used emergency powers to curtail opposition. In fact it did that twice in 50 years. And only twenty people getting their rights completely stripped because they bothered the federal government workers in Ottawa is good enough according to you? Maybe it's just because I'm part of a minority but your entire comment is exactly the issue with Canadian politics. We basically have 0 rights the mom…

  We basically have 0 rights the moment a majority decides that we don't.

That's literally what a democracy is and has been.. It will always seem great until you are the minority.

America had human slaves built into its democracy until the majority said otherwise. Unsure why this is so shocking.

Re: Justin Trudeau promises to resign as PM

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Post by joshdavham » Mon, Jan 06, 2025, 7:01 PM UTC

grecy wrote: post #111

casenmgreen wrote: post #33

Best of luck to our Canadian friends.

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What makes you think that? They don’t seem very similar to me aside from sharing the broad label of ‘conservative’.

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Post by BenoitEssiambre » Mon, Jan 06, 2025, 7:02 PM UTC

hmmm-i-wonder wrote: post #27

newfocogi wrote: post #9

I hadn't heard that this was likely to happen. Any Canadians here able to weigh on whether this was expected or is a normal procedure for your elected officials?

Its been expected since before the Christmas break. There was a cabinet reshuffle, and its come out he's lost the support of his finance minister Chrystia Freeland, wasn't able to replace her with Marc Carney his top choice as Carney seems to be distancing himself from the current Govt on top of public support being at an all time low. Both the opposition Conservatives and the supporting NDP parties (NDP in particula…

Yup, I hear the top candidates to replace him are Chrystia Freeland or Marc Carney (maybe known to this community since he's on Stripe's board). These top candidates might not accept to play this round though as the chances of winning are slim in the current circumstances. Some people are calling the next leader of the party a "sacrificial lamb".

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Jan 06, 2025, 7:02 PM UTC

Tiktaalik wrote: post #285

0xbadc0de5 wrote: post #115

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lol this incredible hyperbole begs for explanation. The two main fumbles I can see of note are on housing and immigration. On immigration the government only made remarkable changes in the last two years, and as if they touched a hot stove, they already realized their mistake and have already scaled back immigration numbers so much that Canada will effectively have nil immigration for the near future. Not likely a ge…

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Post by randomopining » Mon, Jan 06, 2025, 7:03 PM UTC

digging wrote: post #282

jyscao wrote: post #114

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One could endlessly go on about the economy/COL, immigration, crumbling healthcare, housing crisis, far-left ideology going mainstream, etc. But I could frame it much simpler than that - Canada, at least in cities of modest sizes and up, is rapidly transitioning from a high-trust to a low-trust society. An anecdote: my sister is more than 10 years younger than me, she's currently attending the same university as I di…

> One could endlessly go on... Yet, apparently one will instead sidestep the discussion entirely. Frankly the more you've tried to answer the question the less you actually answer it... I don't see how "rapidly transitioning from a high-trust to a low-trust society" or "she's got 2 bikes stolen ... this would be inconceivable to me during my time living in the same town" reflect failures in Canadian government at all…

Look at Japan as a homogenous and extremely (if not the most) high trust society.

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Post by joshdavham » Mon, Jan 06, 2025, 7:04 PM UTC

thesh4d0w wrote: post #2

> Trudeau, who is now answering questions from reporters, said his one regret of his premiership has been his failure to introduce electoral reform. Oh please, you had lots of time to address this and instead you've just handed us to the conservatives.

I wonder if he could still do it last minute. Like could we switch to proportional representation in the last months? It’d be a better system and may even (cynically) help his own party in the next election so there’d be some incentive.

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Post by lp0_on_fire » Mon, Jan 06, 2025, 7:04 PM UTC

zombiwoof wrote: post #214

busterarm wrote: post #194

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In war there are no rights. Once you cross the line from peacef protestor to terrorist going to kill people/cops, the saying goes “fuck your rights”

That's incredibly convenient for people who have no qualms labeling their political opposition as "terrorists".

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Post by arduanika » Mon, Jan 06, 2025, 7:04 PM UTC

tjarrett wrote: post #281

jamie_ca wrote: post #236

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Offtopic to politics, but browsers these days support arbitrary text anchors. docs: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/URI/Fragment/Te... your link: https://www.bitsaboutmoney.com/archive/debanking-and-debunki...

Wow. Came here expecting to read about truckers and instead learned something really useful! Thank you!

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Post by sangnoir » Mon, Jan 06, 2025, 7:04 PM UTC

TriangleEdge wrote: post #262

I have migrated from Canada to the USA and my metrics for wealth, ease of mind, actually working while at work, outgoingness, etc instantly improved. I don't plan on ever going back. I feel chagrin at seeing Canada fail. I'm glad to see Justin Trudeau pressured out, I know there won't be meaningful change associated with the decision, but I have hope.

The USA is great when you're working age and are healthy. Outside the 18-65 age range, not so much. I hope Canada will not morph into USA-lite.