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Meta is killing off its AI-powered Instagram and Facebook profiles

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Re: Meta is killing off its AI-powered Instagram and Facebook profiles

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Post by LtWorf »

rscho wrote: post #447
jiggawatts wrote: post #322

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It’s so bizarre to me that this uniquely US phenomenon of for-profit-middlemen inserted into the healthcare system has resulted in an adverserial relationship between the sick person and the “healthcare provider”. I put that air quotes because insurance companies don’t actually provide health care. They provide insurance. That’s a financial product, not a medical one.

Not unique to the US. This develops to a certain extent everywhere private insurance is sold. It is a completely logical consequence of the insurance company raking in the most when selling you insurance for everything that won't happen, and deny you any coverage for stuff that will happen. At that point, it is a mystery to me why so many people still think free market theory works for healthcare.

It doesn't work at all for anything without strong regulations.

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Post by lotsofpulp »

dataviz1000 wrote: post #407
crmd wrote: post #290

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There is another real-world version of this in the US healthcare system, where doctor offices are using domain-specific LLMs to craft multi-page medical approval requests for procedures that cover every known loophole insurer’s use to deny, which are then being reviewed by ML-powered algorithms at the insurance company looking for any way to deny and delay the claim approval. In other words we have a bona fide AI arm…

Interesting. My next door neighbor ten years ago was a lawyer a couple years out of law school. He discovered that he could pour through hundreds of medical charts a day and find cases where the doctor under billed the insurance company. He would then sue the insurance company, settle, and split the profits with the doctor. More or less he was mining the charts. He would sometimes pull up next door with a half dozen…

So many parts of this story makes no sense.

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Post by Ray20 »

motohagiography wrote: post #251
PKop wrote: post #203

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> It's like people have already forgotten why people used the non-human beings in Westworld This is fiction though. Perhaps we didn't forget about that fake thing and we're critiquing this real thing that exists. How can you take a demonstrative position on "what we're going to use them for" and defend it with someone's contrived story? > because objectively they were bureaucratic abominations Yes, this is why critic…

this misunderstands what fiction is. for people with the capacity, it's a tool for reasoning about hypotheticals and counterfactuals. sometimes its fun, but mostly it's serious. for the people who get it fiction is a public discourse about possibilities. to me seeing it as arbitrary would be like watching golf and thinking it's random. there's a literal mindedness or incapacity for abstraction I can't apprehend in th…

> sometimes its fun, but mostly it's serious.

Sometimes its fun, but mostly it's stupid.

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Post by dataviz1000 »

refulgentis wrote: post #495
dataviz1000 wrote: post #407

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Interesting. My next door neighbor ten years ago was a lawyer a couple years out of law school. He discovered that he could pour through hundreds of medical charts a day and find cases where the doctor under billed the insurance company. He would then sue the insurance company, settle, and split the profits with the doctor. More or less he was mining the charts. He would sometimes pull up next door with a half dozen…

Honestly no piece of this makes any sense, from the thinking this is illegal somehow, to the lawyer jumping to sue because a doctor underbilled (judges would tired of this very quickly, court isn't an automated process to use to threaten people after youve made a mistake) Checked with a doctor and they said the same and couldn't puzzle out a benign misunderstanding that was right - they pointed out that even if you m…

There was a discrepancy in medical coding. The lawyer was looking for something very specific in the medical charts.

I searched for "how long does a doctor have to bill you in florida" and the a top result was this gem, "A doctor in Fort Lauderdale I saw in 2020 contacted me to tell me that there was a /"billing error/" 3 years ago that they now want paid. What can I do?" That sounds about right.

I don't know the specific details about the lawyer was doing.

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Post by WD-42 »

HKH2 wrote: post #519
jazzyjackson wrote: post #240

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You do need to learn how to deal with negative feedback tho. People should write letters and emails and long form messages if they want to say a whole thing without interruption. My concern with working through an idea with a bot is you end up espousing the bots ideas and not your own -- it is the ultimate ideological homogenization.

The more you deal with your insecurities, the easier it is to handle negative feedback. People may not have the time or patience to write long form writing. There are plenty of times I've disagreed with bots, but they're pretty good at neutrally bridging gaps instead of getting emotional. I think you underestimate human impulsiveness.

Why are you arguing with a bot in the first place. Makes no sense.

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Post by projproj »

qntmfred wrote: post #52

I get the hate, but I'd be open to trying out a social media experience that is a mix of human and bots, especially as the bots get better at acting like reasonable humans. Stack Overflow was great when it came out. But the whatever percent of humans who were mean and obnoxious and wouldn't let you just ask your questions eventually ruined it all. Then ChatGPT came out without any humans to get in the way of me askin…

I am trying out something along those lines with friendlyfriends.community (nod to Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep). Still pretty basic though, but feel free to give it a try.

Edit: I'm exploring the idea that social media is not really social. How much different is it to interact with a human intermediated by social media sites than it is to interact with chatbots?

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Post by Kwpolska »

nthingtohide wrote: post #181
rsynnott wrote: post #88

Do they not have anyone sensible left in the room? Like, you’d expect that at some point someone would have said ‘these are comically terrible, we cannot allow them to see the light of day’.

A mistake on par with Netflix getting into mobile games. With advent of 5G, nobody plays candy crush saga or such games.

How is 5G (which isn't super successful or groundbreaking) related to the games people play?

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Post by chikere232 »

woutr_be wrote: post #515
joshdavham wrote: post #190

My friend recently showed me what instagram is currently like as I’ve been off of it for years. It’s honestly so enshittified now! Like he just kept scrolling and there 0 posts from friends - just influencers, brain rot and ads.

I know it won’t be popular, but I would honestly love to have a social network that’s purely just what my friends/family post. No suggested content, no algorithmic feed, no reacting to posts. Just purely whatever they post and ability to leave a comment.

That is very doable as a groupchat or a private mastodon or lemmy instance. Invite your family and friends, don't federate with the wider fediverse.

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Post by chikere232 »

brap wrote: post #293

This is honestly one of the worst ideas Meta has ever had, and this includes the metaverse. Zuck needs to step down, he’s too detached from reality. On the other hand I don’t know who’s left after him, he’s probably surrounded by slimy yes-men.

The metaverse was obviously worse. It's already proven that you can build bots good enough to keep some people engaged, and keeping people engaged is good for ad-revenue. It's not as likely that people would like to spend most of their day with a VR headset on, working in a cartoon office.

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Post by lelanthran »

thayne wrote: post #526
griomnib wrote: post #441

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This almost definitely falls under Business Associate in hipaa and is totally fine. https://www.hhs.gov/hipaa/for-professionals/privacy/guidance...

The lawyer looking over the records was probably fine. Him paying his neighbor to help him look through them is more questionable.

> The lawyer looking over the records was probably fine. Him paying his neighbor to help him look through them is more questionable.

I don't think so. The "paying" part is important - the neighbour becomes an employee for the duration of the work, which is fine, as then there's a contract between the employer and employee which includes, even if only implicitly, that the employers data is not to be exfiltrated.

If he were simply sharing it with his neighbour for shits and giggles that would be a different story.

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