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Meta is killing off its AI-powered Instagram and Facebook profiles

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It’s so bizarre to me that this uniquely US phenomenon of for-profit-middlemen inserted into the healthcare system has resulted in an adverserial relationship between the sick person and the “healthcare provider”. I put that air quotes because insurance companies don’t actually provide health care. They provide insurance. That’s a financial product, not a medical one.

in Japan where the government sets the prices, dentists do things over 3 visits that dentists in other places would do in 1 because then they can bill the government set price 3 times instead of one

Well, that seals the deal. If it doesn’t work for dentists in Japan, there is no point changing anything at all for US healthcare policy.

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I can’t think of any way where a social media app using bots to discourage wrongthink doesn’t come across as dystopian, and also a little sad.

I feel that these days "wrongthink" is a dogwhistle, by all means, just use X or pravda social.

Chat, is this "wrongthink"?

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> Conversations with the characters quickly went sideways when some users peppered them with questions including who created and developed the AI. Liv, for instance, said that her creator team included zero Black people and was predominantly white and male. It was a “pretty glaring omission given my identity”, the bot wrote in response to a question from the Washington Post columnist Karen Attiah. This is probably tr…

I hate the journalists pretending that ML is regurgitating facts instead of just random tokens. The ML model doesn't know who programmed it and can't know because that wasn't in the training data.

I don't think companies should be allowed to double dip.

If they want to put AI EVERYWHERE then they don't get to hide behind "their output is not to be taken seriously" afterwards.

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Obviously this was a bad idea implemented poorly. They never thought about the "why" for any of this. There's real value in fictional chatbots (Character AI) though. With Character AI, you can role play and have outlandish conversations that you might never have with a real person. There's even apps like SocialAI where every profile is AI so you can experience going viral and social media stardom without sacrificing your privacy (at least on paper). But a fictional Facebook profile? Just to like and leave comments? That's nothing you can't do already.

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There is another real-world version of this in the US healthcare system, where doctor offices are using domain-specific LLMs to craft multi-page medical approval requests for procedures that cover every known loophole insurer’s use to deny, which are then being reviewed by ML-powered algorithms at the insurance company looking for any way to deny and delay the claim approval. In other words we have a bona fide AI arm…

Interesting. My next door neighbor ten years ago was a lawyer a couple years out of law school. He discovered that he could pour through hundreds of medical charts a day and find cases where the doctor under billed the insurance company. He would then sue the insurance company, settle, and split the profits with the doctor. More or less he was mining the charts. He would sometimes pull up next door with a half dozen…

Are you sure it was illegal?

HIPPA carves out this exception for using your health records:

“To pay doctors and hospitals for your health care and to help run their businesses”

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post #383

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It’s so bizarre to me that this uniquely US phenomenon of for-profit-middlemen inserted into the healthcare system has resulted in an adverserial relationship between the sick person and the “healthcare provider”. I put that air quotes because insurance companies don’t actually provide health care. They provide insurance. That’s a financial product, not a medical one.

in Japan where the government sets the prices, dentists do things over 3 visits that dentists in other places would do in 1 because then they can bill the government set price 3 times instead of one

There are certainly problems in the healthcare systems in other countries. I don’t think there’s any perfect system. But if you ask me, “you have to go to the dentist 3 times” is a much better problem than “even people with health insurance go bankrupt regularly as a result of getting ill and needing medical care”.

The US government spends a similar amount of money per person on healthcare as other western countries do. But unlike Europe, Australia, Canada, Japan and so on, people don’t even get free healthcare in exchange for all that tax money. The system is deeply flawed. I don’t know anything about the Japanese healthcare system, but I’d still choose to be sick in Japan than America any day of the week.

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My mother beat cancer. Insurance paid for follow up testing every 2 years. I tried to convince her to pay out of pocket and do it every year but she said 'they know best'. My mom did not beat cancer the second time when it came back and too much time elapsed between screenings. I know 'pro status quo' people will say online anecdotes are all lies and not relevant, but there are a heck of a lot of people with a lot of…

With a socialized healthcare system the system would have delays and you'd get the screening every 2.5 years, even if it was scheduled for every 2 years. Because of wait lists. To be fair, it's impossible to know of it matters :) I moved back to Europe from the US. And I can certainly feel that healthcare is slower, less eager to jump and investigate everything. But on the other hand, in the US you most certainly ris…

I live in Australia, and I don’t pay for private health insurance. Last year after travelling to Egypt I ended up in hospital with some gut related issue. I was let straight in from the emergency room. The doctors were great. I stayed overnight in one of the wards hooked up to machines and all that.

I was discharged the next day. I didn’t pay a cent. I didn’t even see a bill. I don’t think they made one.

I keep hearing stories from Americans about wait times in other countries. I’m sure it happens, but I’ve never seen it myself. My experiences with the medical system here has been pretty universally excellent.

When I was in America I was very impressed with how proactive everything is. My insurer paid for yearly physical exams. I’d never done that before. It’s certainly possible I would have even better health outcomes in America. But, I’m way happier here. And I’m a lot less stressed than I was when I lived in the Bay Area. That counts for a lot.

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What really grinds my gears is the CO2 emissions and power-grid load that's being used for this stupid arms race. I realize that there's no magic solution to perverse systems like this, but it really bothers me nonetheless.

Inference uses hardly any compute. You should be complaining about computer games for real compute use.

I'm pretty sure they meant emissions/load from inference and/or training TIMES all the current LLM users on the Earth...

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Obviously this was a bad idea implemented poorly. They never thought about the "why" for any of this. There's real value in fictional chatbots (Character AI) though. With Character AI, you can role play and have outlandish conversations that you might never have with a real person. There's even apps like SocialAI where every profile is AI so you can experience going viral and social media stardom without sacrificing…

I was surprised by the content of the profiles. It seemed as though they were deliberately not fun.

It's better to pick a silly theme where if the AI does poorly, people laugh, rather than get upset.

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I hope the stock gets destroyed next earnings when people realize they've been spending all this money on AI all to not ship a single meaningful feature nor derive any revenue leveraging it. They did the exact same thing with the whole "Metaverse" thing

None of that matters frankly. They make an exorbitant amount of money from ads and that is only growing.
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