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Meta is killing off its AI-powered Instagram and Facebook profiles

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Re: Meta is killing off its AI-powered Instagram and Facebook profiles

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Post by Capricorn2481 »

thereisnospork wrote: post #389
baxtr wrote: post #357

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder why so few companies employ Pixar’s Brain Trust method. You get into a room with a bunch of key execs who are not part of your project and then they tear your product/movie/idea apart. You don’t have to implement any of their suggestions but since these are seasoned execs they see flaws readily. The key is that the process encourages candid feedback without hierarchy or defensiveness. This goes on for a coup…

Imo it's due to people have a hard time separating the worth of their idea with their self-worth. So criticism of their 'baby' breeds negative sentiment which creates a challenging political environment for criticism, which would need to be ameliorated by strong organizational culture.

I think the commenter is saying, with a brain trust, you don't share organizational structure or hierarchy. Neither party has enough interaction for a political environment to form. You can be offended, but you won't see them again and you're not forced to implement their ideas

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Post by jnwatson »

CoastalCoder wrote: post #400
crmd wrote: post #290

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There is another real-world version of this in the US healthcare system, where doctor offices are using domain-specific LLMs to craft multi-page medical approval requests for procedures that cover every known loophole insurer’s use to deny, which are then being reviewed by ML-powered algorithms at the insurance company looking for any way to deny and delay the claim approval. In other words we have a bona fide AI arm…

What really grinds my gears is the CO2 emissions and power-grid load that's being used for this stupid arms race. I realize that there's no magic solution to perverse systems like this, but it really bothers me nonetheless.

Inference uses hardly any compute. You should be complaining about computer games for real compute use.

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Post by ChrisMarshallNY »

baxtr wrote: post #357
sonofhans wrote: post #179

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> There's something essentially wrong with Meta and Google where they can do tech but not products anymore. I'd argue it's because the honest human desire that drives a product dies or is refined out of initiatives by the time it gets through the optimization process of their org structure. This is a really nice insight. I hadn’t put it together this way before. It’s similar to design-by-committee, or movie script-by…

I wonder why so few companies employ Pixar’s Brain Trust method. You get into a room with a bunch of key execs who are not part of your project and then they tear your product/movie/idea apart. You don’t have to implement any of their suggestions but since these are seasoned execs they see flaws readily. The key is that the process encourages candid feedback without hierarchy or defensiveness. This goes on for a coup…

Requires really secure upper management (think Steve Jobs, or John Lasseter).

Those types of folks are not representative of most tech C-Suite denizens.

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Post by jopsen »

_DeadFred_ wrote: post #394
thephyber wrote: post #362

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The political boogeyman was that government bureaucrats would be the members of “death panels” if we went full socialized healthcare industry, but in practice we already have death panels in health insurance claims adjusters and (less maliciously) doctors on transplant review boards.

My mother beat cancer. Insurance paid for follow up testing every 2 years. I tried to convince her to pay out of pocket and do it every year but she said 'they know best'. My mom did not beat cancer the second time when it came back and too much time elapsed between screenings. I know 'pro status quo' people will say online anecdotes are all lies and not relevant, but there are a heck of a lot of people with a lot of…

With a socialized healthcare system the system would have delays and you'd get the screening every 2.5 years, even if it was scheduled for every 2 years. Because of wait lists.

To be fair, it's impossible to know of it matters :)

I moved back to Europe from the US. And I can certainly feel that healthcare is slower, less eager to jump and investigate everything.

But on the other hand, in the US you most certainly risk talking your self into procedures you don't need!

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Post by khana »

fallingknife wrote: post #343
crmd wrote: post #290

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is another real-world version of this in the US healthcare system, where doctor offices are using domain-specific LLMs to craft multi-page medical approval requests for procedures that cover every known loophole insurer’s use to deny, which are then being reviewed by ML-powered algorithms at the insurance company looking for any way to deny and delay the claim approval. In other words we have a bona fide AI arm…

The year is 2035. To cut costs, both insurance companies and providers removed the human from the loop long ago setting off an adversarial process between the LLMs on both sides. Medical insurance claims are now written in an ever changing format that resembles no human language. United Healthcare has just announced a $10 billion project including a multi gigawatt data center to train its own foundational model to ke…

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Post by dataviz1000 »

crmd wrote: post #290
tomalaci wrote: post #186

You know what AI profiles I want more of? Clueless grandma/grandpa that accepts scammer calls and waste their time. Such as UK's O2 Daisy: https://news.virginmediao2.co.uk/o2-unveils-daisy-the-ai-gra...

There is another real-world version of this in the US healthcare system, where doctor offices are using domain-specific LLMs to craft multi-page medical approval requests for procedures that cover every known loophole insurer’s use to deny, which are then being reviewed by ML-powered algorithms at the insurance company looking for any way to deny and delay the claim approval. In other words we have a bona fide AI arm…

Interesting. My next door neighbor ten years ago was a lawyer a couple years out of law school. He discovered that he could pour through hundreds of medical charts a day and find cases where the doctor under billed the insurance company. He would then sue the insurance company, settle, and split the profits with the doctor. More or less he was mining the charts.

He would sometimes pull up next door with a half dozen tote boxes overflowing with medical records. He would say "hey, dataviz1000, can you help me get these into the house?" He once asked me if I wanted a new job helping him go through all the charts. I don't get involved with illegal activities and I was earning more not breaking the law elsewhere. He did hire a young woman who graduated law school and was still working on passing the bar. Since they have married and started a family.

Yes, HIPAA laws got broken! Yes, this guy made 10s of millions in a few short years.

There are no good guys in this story.

Probably would make a good start up using LLM and bringing the process into compliance with HIPAA. There is probably several billion dollars in insurance companies that have been under billed.

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Post by jopsen »

fallingknife wrote: post #391
throwaway48476 wrote: post #338

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The solution is for all foreign wire transfers to be insured and reversible which would drive up the cost of doing business with countries home to scammers.

Insured against what? (The bank is already liable if the account is breached). These scam transfers are intentional acts authorized by the account holders. A company can't be held liable for the stupidity of its customers.

Banks should be liable, there is often insufficient ways to validate who you're transferring money to.

Sometimes the bank interface will tell you name and address, after you type in numbers, but who validates this?

My bank (in Denmark) sometimes sends me emails from an domain that isn't their primary domain.

The bank uses a login system that is provided by the state. In theory it's a good idea, but you sign-in on domains that are not owned identity authority. Like I sign-in on the bank website, instead of sign-in by redirecting from the bank to a trusted domain owned by the identity authority (how like OIDC flows usually work).

Sure the login flow still involves an app, but my point is:

There is a lot of bad practices around. These should incur liability.

Just start looking at what domains emails are sent from. And complain if they are not the primary domain of the entity contacting you, you'll get tired real soon.

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Post by inetknght »

rrr_oh_man wrote: post #168
lm28469 wrote: post #155

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People should try to socialize in real life. The web is 90% rage baits, trolls, people completely brain washed by fringe conspiracy theories and politics IRL these 90% turn into 10%, if you really care about socializing you'll have more meaningful interactions with the grandma living next door than with the queer black queen zuckerbot ™ It's like if people asked supermarkets to hide plastic apples amongst the real on…

> It's like if people asked supermarkets to hide plastic apples amongst the real ones because they look better and never went bad I’m stealing this

> I’m stealing this

Might not want to say that in the grocery store while browsing those apples. Plastic apples tend to have network affects not usually associated with edible fruit.

Re: Meta is killing off its AI-powered Instagram and Facebook profiles

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Post by fishywang »

I had a facebook account from the early days. I deleted my facebook account at 2018-ish. I never had an instagram account.

Recently I got an email from instagram saying it's "easier to get back to instagram", with my usual username. I can't check what's on that instagram user because they don't show you anything without logging in, so I asked my wife to check that instagram user for me. It doesn't have any photos nor profile photo or following, but it does have several followers that's my facebook friends (when I had the account), so at some point meta created that instagram account for me and associated it with my facebook account, I guess? I hope that account was not "AI-powered".

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