281–290 of 390 posts
This whole criminal record piece of shit is a crime on its own. I believe that records of people who served their time or just have been arrested/carded and then let free must be sealed and not accessible to general employers. Some obvious exceptions can apply but generally people should not be penalized for what they've been penalized already.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
> In the US police and prisons are directly derived from slave patrols. This is history and factual. and human rights are derived from feudal rights. okay, and? is this just supposed to make you feel bad with scary words? > Recidivism rates for people incarcerated more than 6 months is something like 66% for one year post release. this sounds very much like you are mixing up cause and effect. is it surprising that so…
"Crims are going to crim again" is likely the shallowest take possible in such discussions. What's relevant here is comparing different prison systems wrt Recidivism. eg: Nine out of 10 South African criminals reoffend, while in Finland it’s 1 in 3. This is why https://theconversation.com/nine-out-of-10-south-african-cri...
> One in three U.S. adults has been arrested by age 23. Does that seem crazy to anyone else? I'm in Ireland and can't think of one person in my extended family and friends that has any interaction with the police beyond routine insurance/DUI checkpoints or reporting incidents like car accidents.
I'm trying to figure out where that number comes from. The link to The Sentencing Project claims this, but the link to NCSL instead states "Approximately 77 million Americans, or 1 in every 3 adults, have a criminal record." Like, this feels like it's got to include speeding tickets in the mix to get something that high.
It excludes "minor traffic violations."
> Brame, Turner, Paternoster, and Bushway (2012) recently investigated the arrest experience of a national sample of American youth and found that 25–41% of those youth reported having been arrested or taken into custody for a nontraffic offense by age 23.
> Assuming the missing cases are missing at random, about 30% of black males have experienced at least one arrest by age 18 (vs. about 22% for white males); by age 23 about 49% of black males have been arrested (vs. about 38% for white males). Earlier research using the NLSY showed that the risk of arrest by age 23 was 30%
I understand this is the general policy in a few places, like Germany. The general idea seems to be that it is more beneficial to a society if criminals are given a viable avenue to lead non-criminal lives again, with the alternative being people going "ah fuck it, I guess I'm a criminal now". I'm surprised at this concept spreading in the US, since the system would generally benefit from having perpetual perpetrator…
Before things like the FBI and the telegraph it was quite common for Americans to find a new life in another state. You could be married in New York but nobody in Montana would know unless they actively started an investigation. The world has become a village.
It turns out that in a world of "people forced to leave the village to live a new life free from the consequences of their prior deeds", the main reason people would try to start living in a new village was because they had done something that made them no longer welcome with all the people they knew before.
One oft-understated advantage of an explicit noble class is that it provides a medium for verifying "this person really is traveling for legitimate reasons".
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Really high, and crazy, but apparently legit -see https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4443707/#:~:text=Br... .
The fact that it's self reported makes me wonder how close to the actual number it is. Also, how did they choose their sample. Edit: Link to original paper https://d1wqtxts1xzle7.cloudfront.net/32982174/Turner_-_Appe...
> One in three U.S. adults has been arrested by age 23. Does that seem crazy to anyone else? I'm in Ireland and can't think of one person in my extended family and friends that has any interaction with the police beyond routine insurance/DUI checkpoints or reporting incidents like car accidents.
That seems exceptionally high, and I'm assuming the study was mostly (all?) urban subjects, which could skew the results heavily. I can't think of more than 2 people I know that have an arrest history, and I know a LOT of (non-urban dwelling) people.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Crims are going to crim again" is likely the shallowest take possible in such discussions. What's relevant here is comparing different prison systems wrt Recidivism. eg: Nine out of 10 South African criminals reoffend, while in Finland it’s 1 in 3. This is why https://theconversation.com/nine-out-of-10-south-african-cri...
Did you click through to glance through the paper linked? I was hoping the author would posit a causal model, adjust for a few different factors, and have something robust. Nope, nothing - just a wall of text even quoting Derrida. Empiricism is slowly dying, in large part due to truth seeking becoming subservient to confirmation bias.
Yes.
> I was hoping the author would posit a causal model, adjust for a few different factors, and have something robust.
They did to a degree.
> Nope, nothing
Perhaps you might click through and read again.
> just a wall of text
A "wall of text" is something, this one was broken up with paragraphs and had a number of observations regarding systems in two countries and quotes from people in several countries.
> even quoting Derrida.
Would you be kind enough to quote the "quote", Ctrl-F Derrida returns zilch, and expand on why that particular quote offends you?
> Empiricism is slowly dying, in large part due to truth seeking becoming subservient to confirmation bias.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana
Presumably this will increase business sand value for the various private companies that sit on silos of such data that you access for a price.
A big reason that say 50 years ago if you had made a newsworthy mistake when young and then had been clean for decades after that mistake being in newspaper didn't cause you to have trouble getting jobs or housing was that it took effort for people to find that archived newspaper item.
Move to a new town far enough away that your youthful mistake didn't make the papers there and build your new life there. If someone in the new town wanted to see if you had been in the news in the old town they had to actually get someone to go to the newspaper archives in the old town and search them.
There might not be any indexing of the archives good enough to allow going right to stories that mention you. They might end up having to just manually scan old newspapers (actual physical newspaper or microfiche copies).
That's too expensive for people to routinely do it for everyone they hire or rent to.
Now the records are digitized and on the internet. They have been indexed by search engines and used to train LLMs.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Slave is sometimes also referred to as captured person or captive. An imprisoned person is a captive.
There's usually a work component, though. An imprisoned person may or may not be enslaved as part of that imprisonment. If they get paid a reasonable wage, they're a prisoner with a job. If they're not forced to work, they're a prisoner but not a slave.
The work component only existed because why else would one want a slave?
If someone born into slavery died before they could walk, they still were a slave. If an old slave was allowed to retire without working again, that didn't stop them from being a slave.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
I would like them to refrain from naming people until/unless they are actually convicted. Heck, I would probably go a step further and update defamation laws to make publishing allegations (legal or otherwise) considered equivalent to making allegations. Far too many lives have been ruined by media “just reporting on allegations”
Or they should just report newsworthy public items in an unbiased way and let people decide
99% of accusations of media bias in my experience are just someone whose experiences don't match those of that particular story.