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Re: Dog Aging Project

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Post by zacharycohn »

bsenftner wrote: post #35
goda90 wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well study participants aren't charged. Maybe it's fraud against those who are funding it, but the pet owners themselves are not the current target.

I'd examine this much deeper before engaging. It's far too consumer targeted, far too feel good. I would not be surprised if "becoming a partner" or "community scientist" required fees or more.

You could try clicking around and reading a little bit before throwing wildly inaccurate, speculative, and slanderous accusations at an org you know nothing about.

Re: Dog Aging Project

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Post by flippyhead »

scotty79 wrote: post #63
jasdi wrote: post #11

Animal domestication is really wild. So we first select for neoteny (playfulness, dependency on caregiver, physical features people like) basically prolonging the juvenile state. Then we put them in controlled environments of abundance, were all their needs are met. Which further diminishes need to reach adult state (with traits like aggressiveness to compete for resources). This abundance causes them to mature/breed…

Recently I had an interesting thought that basically people did almost the same to themselves spontaneously through culture. Which might influence various aspects of human behavior, like social interactions in general, cooperation and means of competition, mate selection. We might have genetic changes that are not maladaptive only in the culture that introduced them. As technology forces culture to evolve it might tu…

Just like the Eloi!

Re: Dog Aging Project

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Post by enraged_camel »

bsenftner wrote: post #83
carls wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This project is a research project out of the University of Washington, led by several of the professors there. I believe the lab is the Healthy Aging and Longevity Institute. They share a list of academic publications that have resulted from the project, and their Team page lists the full names a sizable large number of people. Their FAQ indicates that the cost of the DNA Kit and other things are covered by the proj…

Honestly, it does not appear like a research institute at all. It looks like the styling that the owners of People's Magazine or the National Enquirer would use to market their 'research nonprofit' where the actual research contribution is 3% of their revenues, while supporting fat salaries for an executive staff. It just looks too consumer and not academic, not serious. It is simply too feel good. It has the trappin…

Several people have corrected you, and yet you keep going, claiming that this is some sort of fraud. What's your deal? Why are you spreading FUD?

Re: Dog Aging Project

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Post by shepherdjerred »

costcopizza wrote: post #60
tt_dev wrote: post #18

Need one for cats.

We can get them to 30 with the help of Jake Perry's protocol. -A breakfast of eggs, turkey bacon, broccoli and coffee … with cream -A splash of red wine to “circulate the arteries” -Stimulation by way of nature documentaries screened in his garage-turned-theater -Lots of love and attention See: https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/how-to-raise-a-165-yea...

Thanks for sharing that article, it was a great read

Re: Dog Aging Project

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Post by modeless »

Unlike futurists I have little hope of our medical system producing radical improvements to human lifespan in my lifetime. Even ASI can't cure aging if it is not allowed to do experiments or if powerful lobbies prevent it from accessing medical data or "displacing" human medical staff.

If we want to get breakthroughs in lifespan extension quickly, they will have to come initially from something like this where vested interests are less strong and regulations less stifling. Not that I think this particular effort is going to do it, but something like it is the only way it could happen.

Re: Dog Aging Project

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Post by LeifCarrotson »

irs wrote: post #43

There is also https://loyal.com - Biotech Startup for researching/ developing longevity drugs for dogs.

I was also going to link Loyal, I think they came up on HN last year and had some good discussion:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38447491

There's also https://leapyears.com/ - another project with similar goals. That one is associated with David Sinclair of Harvard Medical School:

https://sinclair.hms.harvard.edu/people/david-sinclair

Personally, I'm optimistic about the capacity of studies and projects like these to extend our knowledge regarding aging. Human trials are fraught with ethical issues, and have very slow feedback loops (acquiring results from a study might take decades, which can be an entire career). Laboratory trials on mice and other small mammals can be more effective, but funding is hard and the results are isolated to a small academic lab. Large-scale supplements for pets can give data in a few years, have lesser (though not negligible) ethical problems, and have built-in funding. The funding process is, of course, a source of conflicts of interest, but it has to be done somehow.

Re: Dog Aging Project

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Post by ben_w »

modeless wrote: post #96

Unlike futurists I have little hope of our medical system producing radical improvements to human lifespan in my lifetime. Even ASI can't cure aging if it is not allowed to do experiments or if powerful lobbies prevent it from accessing medical data or "displacing" human medical staff. If we want to get breakthroughs in lifespan extension quickly, they will have to come initially from something like this where vested…

While I think that anti-aging is harder than e.g. a successful and sane brain upload, the very thing you say in your second paragraph is why I think we may get it anyway — my inner cynic says that there are many rich and powerful dictators who will be very happy to volunteer their population as test subjects.

Re: Dog Aging Project

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Post by insane_dreamer »

bsenftner wrote: post #83
carls wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This project is a research project out of the University of Washington, led by several of the professors there. I believe the lab is the Healthy Aging and Longevity Institute. They share a list of academic publications that have resulted from the project, and their Team page lists the full names a sizable large number of people. Their FAQ indicates that the cost of the DNA Kit and other things are covered by the proj…

Honestly, it does not appear like a research institute at all. It looks like the styling that the owners of People's Magazine or the National Enquirer would use to market their 'research nonprofit' where the actual research contribution is 3% of their revenues, while supporting fat salaries for an executive staff. It just looks too consumer and not academic, not serious. It is simply too feel good. It has the trappin…

Probably because creating a nice-looking website is more likely to drive engagement with today's users than something that looks like it was made by some academic stuck in the 90s.

Re: Dog Aging Project

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Post by insane_dreamer »

abc-1 wrote: post #5
mahkeiro wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The publication page of the site seems to contain quite a few publications. What do you mean by no result?

Nothing useful to improving human quality of life.

?? It's about improving the lifespan of dogs, not humans. But if you must, well, dogs living longer (while healthy) == happier human dog owners.
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