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Re: Dog Aging Project

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Post by [deleted] »

graemep wrote: post #33
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> What domesticated animals were bread for "cuteness"? Dogs. > Cats are mice hunters Cats blur the line between domestication and taming. > Most popular dog breeds were selected for killing and dog fight One can breed for more than one thing. (Dog fighting as a selection pressure is very modern and very limited.) Dogs literally evolved a muscle to make them more appealing to (and help them communicate with) humans [1…

Dog fighting is limited, but most dog breeds have been bred primarily for a specific practical purpose. > Dogs literally evolved a muscle to make them more appealing to (and help them communicate with) humans Not necessarily exactly cuteness. The other explanation suggested is better communication in general - by exposing the whites of their eyes we can see what they are looking at, which is an important cue for huma…

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Re: Dog Aging Project

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Post by BiteCode_dev »

Beijinger wrote: post #78
jasdi wrote: post #11

Animal domestication is really wild. So we first select for neoteny (playfulness, dependency on caregiver, physical features people like) basically prolonging the juvenile state. Then we put them in controlled environments of abundance, were all their needs are met. Which further diminishes need to reach adult state (with traits like aggressiveness to compete for resources). This abundance causes them to mature/breed…

Dogs domesticated us. Wolves are hunted but dogs a fed, given shelter, love and access to medical care.

You'll let me know the next time you'll have to require the permission of your dog to pee, or when it can trigger surgery to cut your balls or put you down.

Re: Dog Aging Project

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Post by bsenftner »

carls wrote: post #56
bsenftner wrote: post #35

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I'd examine this much deeper before engaging. It's far too consumer targeted, far too feel good. I would not be surprised if "becoming a partner" or "community scientist" required fees or more.

This project is a research project out of the University of Washington, led by several of the professors there. I believe the lab is the Healthy Aging and Longevity Institute. They share a list of academic publications that have resulted from the project, and their Team page lists the full names a sizable large number of people. Their FAQ indicates that the cost of the DNA Kit and other things are covered by the proj…

Honestly, it does not appear like a research institute at all. It looks like the styling that the owners of People's Magazine or the National Enquirer would use to market their 'research nonprofit' where the actual research contribution is 3% of their revenues, while supporting fat salaries for an executive staff. It just looks too consumer and not academic, not serious. It is simply too feel good. It has the trappings of respectability, but not really. It's too slick. I also never spent the time to look deeper, the loud consumer targeted presentation drove me away.

Re: Dog Aging Project

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Post by throwaway5752 »

bsenftner wrote: post #32

How many of you glance at this website and think "fraud engine"? This is a fantastic vehicle to suck money out of people that love their pets, and love animals in general. I know nothing about these people, but my fraud alarms are screaming.

Every single longevity project - human or otherwise - is a scam. Fear of dying is the most fundamental one to existence, and scam artists have been exploiting it for as long as there have been people.

Religion promises an eternal afterlife. Cryogenics promises a future thawing and cure in an enlightend and technically advanced future. Plastic surgery puts a veneer over the signs of the natural aging process. The more recent batch have targeted metabolism, growth inhibition (ie rapamycin), etc.

Very wealthy people that don't want to die or don't want their pets to die will never be in short supply. They will still all die, roughly around the same time they would have otherwise from different causes with different infirmities (search for "sirolimus side effects").

Enjoy and make the most of the years you are given. Happy New Year.

Re: Dog Aging Project

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Post by oyashirochama »

0_____0 wrote: post #23
akdor1154 wrote: post #10

Urgh some ungodly JavaScript is hijacking the scrolling, I wish the site wasn't so ineptly written.

bahaha usually when HN people are complaining about a website I think they're being dramatic but the way this was scrolljacked, it's almost like it's designed to frustrate you

The best part is running this on a potato PC and watching the JavaScript kill itself.

Re: Dog Aging Project

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Post by the-chitmonger »

costcopizza wrote: post #60
tt_dev wrote: post #18

Need one for cats.

We can get them to 30 with the help of Jake Perry's protocol. -A breakfast of eggs, turkey bacon, broccoli and coffee … with cream -A splash of red wine to “circulate the arteries” -Stimulation by way of nature documentaries screened in his garage-turned-theater -Lots of love and attention See: https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/how-to-raise-a-165-yea...

I've seen his story across various sources - has he ever elaborated on specific quantities/ratios? I haven't seen anyone reproduce his regimen for his cats, and I'd love to see some more concrete evidence that the diet is effective (IMHO the extensive development of his home to act as a massive jungle gym feels like the more likely culprit in their longevity).

Re: Dog Aging Project

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Post by abc-1 »

542354234235 wrote: post #75
abc-1 wrote: post #5

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Nothing useful to improving human quality of life.

Exploring unknown paths that turn out not to lead anywhere useful is still worthwhile, since we can't possibly know beforehand what unknown information will or won't be useful. We don't even know what research might become useful based on new information from some other field or line of research.

Great, so there’s no way to “fail” and they can keep asking for money indefinitely. See the problem here? You’d stop shoveling money into research that hadn’t yielded any results either, especially if it was $24 million dollars that could have gone to better avenues.

Re: Dog Aging Project

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Post by trallnag »

catlikesshrimp wrote: post #20
trallnag wrote: post #13

Why is the website so difficult to scroll through on Firefox on Android?

I am using version 133.0.3 (Build #2016060959), hg-7ed49fe90e84+ GV: 133.0.3-20241209150345 AS: 133.0 with ublock origin. And it is behaving as expected (correctly, I mean)

I'm on exactly the same version, also with ublock as the only extension. Weird. For me the scrolling stops immediately the moment I lift my finger off the screen

Re: Dog Aging Project

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Post by senkora »

casenmgreen wrote: post #41
aitchnyu wrote: post #7

Are there other examples of innovations flowing from veterinary medicine to human medicine?

I don't know, but if you find your dog is now immortal at the human equivalent of 25 and you're getting old and grey, everything hurts, and the babes don't look at you any more, you're probably going to want something to get done about it, pronto.

Relevant SMBC: https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/jimmy

Re: Dog Aging Project

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Post by 93po »

costcopizza wrote: post #60
tt_dev wrote: post #18

Need one for cats.

We can get them to 30 with the help of Jake Perry's protocol. -A breakfast of eggs, turkey bacon, broccoli and coffee … with cream -A splash of red wine to “circulate the arteries” -Stimulation by way of nature documentaries screened in his garage-turned-theater -Lots of love and attention See: https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/how-to-raise-a-165-yea...

This seems like it'd make for a very happy cat, but that level of sodium and caffeine and any alcohol intake at all has to be pretty bad for them.
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