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Re: Jimmy Carter has died

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Post by roenxi »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #308
bdangubic wrote: post #262

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messaging is hard when prices never went down… you can’t send economist/finacial times article explaining what biden was able to pull of (albeit the raising deficit) to a farmer in oklahoma who is paying 80% more for his groceries…

> messaging is hard when prices never went down… The opposite of inflation (when prices go up), deflation (when prices go down) is never a good thing. But explaining that a bit of inflation is a good thing is something all economists agree on but most normal people can't understand. The fact that velocity should always be positive, and that "lower inflation" means lowering the rate of price growth, not deflation, is…

I doubt all economists agree on that because it is obviously not true. For example if there was a period where the CPI dropped combined with increasing wages across the workforce, that'd be pretty great for most people.

Deflation, in the abstract. is about as good or bad as inflation. Slightly better because a serious deflationary crisis is much less damaging than an inflationary one. You go to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deflation#Historical_examples and it is a whos-who of countries who then went on to be successful and prosperous and a few TBDs in the 2010s - there might be examples of catastrophic deflation but they haven't made it to Wikipedia yet.

Re: Jimmy Carter has died

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Post by tgma »

MrMcCall wrote: post #69
lelandfe wrote: post #25

RIP Jimmy Carter. A model of living meaningfully in old age. The Onion has many funny bits on the guy's age[0]. "Former President Jimmy Carter, 98, announced Tuesday that he had gotten his recent vasectomy reversed," "Jimmy Carter Makes Pact With Dianne Feinstein That If Both Single In 50 Years They’ll Marry Each Other,""Jimmy Carter Concerned Desire For Fresh Faces In Democratic Party May Hurt His Chances In 2020" I…

He gave his life to compassion in service to all of humanity.

All of humanity? Propaganda much?

No, thank you. At very least he destroyed Iran's government and was the American architect of the Islamic Republic in Iran[1], which has a direct causal relationship to many disasters within and outside the country and led to October 7.

But sure he put solar panels on the White House. Great guy.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guadeloupe_Conference

Re: Jimmy Carter has died

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Post by foota »

silisili wrote: post #601
InsideOutSanta wrote: post #592

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"It feels like the left moved left" In what way? If anything, Democrats have moved to the right on topics like border control and immigration, and haven't really moved strongly to either side on social issues like abortion or drugs, on education, gun control, campaign finance, trade, healthcare, or foreign policy.

Since I've been asked a thousand times by leftists, I'll try to answer. I feel like at least the right recognizes they're going further right. > Democrats have moved to the right on topics like border control and immigration Yes, because it's become such an apparent clusterfk they had no choice but to. It's not much different than a child covered in Nutella, with Nutella all over the table and floor telling their par…

I strongly disagree with most of what you've said, but I think more meta, this comment is not constructive (in so much as politics/ideology is supposed to be avoided anyway), in particular I don't think posting a rant and telling people you don't care what they have to say is good.

In particular, "Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive."

Re: Jimmy Carter has died

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Post by tw1984 »

RIP.

I am fully convinced that Carter is a true statesman, not because he was a great president for 4 years, but because he was great for his entire life for everything.

Sadly, we stopped seeing American statesman like Carter (and Reagan, Nixon). Look at what we had in the past two decades, Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump and Biden. You guys almost got Harris!

The trend also seems to be systematic, look at all those morons running the shows in EU, no wonder they couldn't beat Putin on their own.

Re: Jimmy Carter has died

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Post by yyyk »

alex_young wrote: post #469
yyyk wrote: post #276

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We were talking about energy policy. It was well known at the time policy was motivated by the oil crisis and environment was a second fiddle: https://www.nytimes.com/1979/07/17/archives/environmentalist... * Aside: EPA and the Clean Air act weren't motivated by Climate Change but by particle pollution concerns.

OP > …real work on Climate Change would have begun in 1981… I don’t think that’s incorrect even if you ascribe all of the era’s environmental decision making to energy scarcity. Carter still set a goal of 20% renewable energy by 2020, and that still would have made a significant impact. It seems obvious to me that environmental policy was in some part driven by concern for the environment itself, but that doesn’t cha…

* The main practical work the admin did wasn't solar but synthetic fuels cuz the Carter admin believed in peak oil. That's an incredibly polluting technology that didn't happen in our timeline. It's only possibly reasonable if it displaces tarsands, but if it doesn't we end up in the worst scenario.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_Fuels_Corporation

* Aside, significant global warming became scientific consensus only sometime between 1979 and 1989. The global cooling thing above is wrong in that most scientists expected some warming and that it expects too much from science. It does connect to the fact there was real scientific debate at the time and not just denialism, it wasn't clear warming would be that much a problem.

This should not be a point against climate science - scientists aren't born with the correct climate model! It took time to get the modeling right, but once they did the predictions were completely accurate.

Re: Jimmy Carter has died

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Post by eastbound »

WalterBright wrote: post #158
bdndndndbve wrote: post #125

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FDR doesn't make the cut?

FDR stripped 110,000 Americans of their property and herded them into concentration camps.

I’m not in USA and I don’t know about this story. Do you have a name for it so I can search?

Re: Jimmy Carter has died

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Post by johnnyanmac »

mmooss wrote: post #623
johnnyanmac wrote: post #549

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You're asking for a lot of evidence on what's overall the opinions of an entire country. Something entire electorial campaigns apparently struggle to do despite their funding ballooning. You have to do that research yourself, that isn't a question answered within HN's character limit. But Bernie's popularity along the youth probably was not just some trend, to help you start.

There's lots of research on election results and voting patterns. > You have to do that research yourself It's really on you or whoever is making the claim. > that isn't a question answered within HN's character limit It seems pretty straightforward to me. Who voted for what and why? If you don't know, then these claims are fabrications.

>There's lots of research on election results and voting patterns.

Yes, thats the hard part. Lots of reach if varying quality and accuracy, before and after election analysis. Opinion pieces. So much to sift through.

>It's really on you or whoever is making the claim.

I didn't make the claim. But I want to emphasize that this isn't just a question you throw a link at.

>If you don't know, then these claims are fabrications.

If that's your approach to any social science, you're not getting far. Nro unless you have the money for a census with proper statisticians. Data will always be messy and debatable.

>It seems pretty straightforward to me. Who voted for what and why?

I hope the above at least sheds some light otherwise. At least if your goal is truly truth seeking and not randomly bashing heads on the internet.

Re: Jimmy Carter has died

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Post by unitol »

InsideOutSanta wrote: post #614
silisili wrote: post #601

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since I've been asked a thousand times by leftists, I'll try to answer. I feel like at least the right recognizes they're going further right. > Democrats have moved to the right on topics like border control and immigration Yes, because it's become such an apparent clusterfk they had no choice but to. It's not much different than a child covered in Nutella, with Nutella all over the table and floor telling their par…

The trans topic is a wedge issue that has absolutely no impact on 99% of people. Many of the things people like to bring up when complaining about "a shift to the left" are fringe ideas even on the left, and are amplified by right-wingers who are trying to paint the left as out of touch with reality. Having said that, age-appropriate sex ed in elementary school (e.g. talking about bodily autonomy and consent) is actu…

> The trans topic is a wedge issue that has absolutely no impact on 99% of people.

The idea of "gender identity" as based on a subjective inner sense of self, and that "gender identity" must supersede sex, fundamentally reframes a core characteristic of the entire human population.

When implemented in law and policy, this affects everyone.

The impact is mostly on women and girls, for whom female-only spaces are essential for their safety and dignity. Allowing any man who says he's a women into such spaces undermines the very reason they exist in the first place, and effectively destroys them.

This isn't progress; it harms women and girls. It shouldn't be a surprise why so many people are against such changes being imposed.

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