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Post by lotsofpulp »

pkulak wrote: post #520
efitz wrote: post #509

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Not by itself, not anymore, because of ACA. For most people, the most cost effective insurance is catastrophic major medical + self-pay for anything else. What passes for insurance now really isn’t “insurance” in the sense that completely expected, and even likely, events are covered. It’s more like paying for discount healthcare but has the major medical built in.

You can buy it as long as you also have an HSA account, which you should have anyway because it’s pre tax.

That is a High Deductible Health Plan, which have out of pocket maximums capped in the $10k per calendar year range. While $10k is a lot to a lot of people, it’s a drop in the bucket for an actual catastrophic healthcare event.

Re: Jimmy Carter has died

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Post by lotsofpulp »

gigatree wrote: post #515
efitz wrote: post #509

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Not by itself, not anymore, because of ACA. For most people, the most cost effective insurance is catastrophic major medical + self-pay for anything else. What passes for insurance now really isn’t “insurance” in the sense that completely expected, and even likely, events are covered. It’s more like paying for discount healthcare but has the major medical built in.

Stupid question but does that mean the “discount” comes from tax dollars? i.e. medical costs are spread out more but we’re also collectively spending more of our income on it?

The discount is from a knowledgeable entity who buys lots of healthcare knowing what they are buying (theoretically preventing fraud) and what competing healthcare providers are selling at, and also negotiating with the collecting purchasing decision of thousands or millions of insureds.

Edit: since I can’t respond to comment below due to hitting too fast posting limit:

Post ACA and pre ACA plans are completely different products due to out of pocket maximum, age rating factor caps, and inability to screen for pre existing conditions.

Hence comparing pre and post ACA health insurance prices is not meaningful.

Re: Jimmy Carter has died

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Post by arrowsmith »

Aunche wrote: post #311
lapcat wrote: post #214

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> For his loss in 1980, I still blame Kennedy. I still blame Carter for killing single-payer health care. Almost 50 years later, we're still stuffering from that. Consider the recent murder of the United executive, and the public glee over it. The public despises our current health care system. Of course Obama had the chance to remedy the situation but instead chose to give government subsidies to the very health ins…

> the very health insurance companies that everyone hates First of all, the vast majority of Americans like their health insurance [1]. There were talks of a public option but it would be political suicide for anyone in a swing state to support "government death panels." Indeed even the moderate ACA caused Democrats to suffer one of the worst Congressional losses in history [2]. [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/13…

How many of the people who say they “like their health insurance” have actually had to make a claim?

I suspect a situation like this XKCD: https://xkcd.com/937/

Re: Jimmy Carter has died

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Post by cyberge99 »

zeven7 wrote: post #447
wistlo wrote: post #231

"A generation from now, this solar heater can either be a curiosity, a museum piece, an example of a road not taken, or it can be a small part of one of the greatest and most exciting adventures ever undertaken by the American people,” Mr. Carter said. Reagan removed the panels in 1986." All you need to know about the respective legacies of Carter and Reagan.

“ Three of the panels are part of museum collections. One of the panels was donated by Unity College to the National Museum of American History in 2009. Another is on display at the Jimmy Carter Presidential Center. A third panel has been part of the Solar Science and Technology Museum in Dezhou, China since 2013.” [1] Sounds like America chose “museum piece” from Carter’s options. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki…

It represents the road not taken. Reagan removed solar panels.

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Post by johnnyanmac »

Terr_ wrote: post #389
zizee wrote: post #244

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Most of the storage challenges are political, rather than engineering. There is so much fear around this stuff, but it's usually based on the incorrect notion that radioactive wastes is both super dangerous, and lasts forever. But this is not true. The super dangerous stuff doesn't hang around that long, whilst the stuff that does isn't that dangerous. The super-duper dangerous radioactive waste has a relatively shor…

Perhaps, but the world is full of examples of problems that are/were "solvable" but remained unsolved for long periods of time causing a lot of harm. The fact that the problem still exists at all is an indicator it's not actually that easy.

Like Universal healthcare? Very hard problem, we should learn from all those other 150 countries that have it. Very smart people.

Wish I saved the quote, but I remember reading something to the tone of "Everybody across all lines wants healthcare. But 8 rich people disagree, so it's complicated".

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Post by johnnyanmac »

worik wrote: post #460
bb88 wrote: post #181

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Three Mile Island and then Chernobyl kinda killed that dream. Both had bad actors trying to cover up the leak, and caused the nuclear scare to go even worse. France also has majority ownership of the nuclear plants, something that would never fly in the US (because Socialism!). Even when I was an intern at a power company, the leaders there saw the nuclear power plant the company owned as an "albatross around their n…

> Three Mile Island and then Chernobyl kinda killed that dream With very good reason. Nuclear power leaves a 200,000 year head ache. Climate change is a mild problem in comparison, it will correct itself in centuries (taking most of civilisation with it, but mēh!)

I think it'd be easier to figure out how to manage that nuclear waste than burning humanity towards extinction and trying to deal with it when we get to it.

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Post by johnnyanmac »

mmooss wrote: post #332
jmclnx wrote: post #59

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Kennedy split the split the Democratic Party, causing people not to bother to vote. Plus it gave Reagan many talking points, which then started the move of Union People to the GOP.

Is there evidence of that? The centrist Dems always blame those further left, not themselves. They did it in 2016 and this year too.

I mean, Kennedy undoubtedly wanted to run. This isn't some niche conspiracy:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980_United_States_presidentia...

"a few days before the announcement went badly, however. Kennedy gave an "incoherent and repetitive"[9] answer to the question of why he was running, and the polls, which showed him leading Carter by 58–25 in August now had him ahead 49–39."

Who knows how this could have gone had that interview not bombed his ratings.

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Post by jmward01 »

dpkirchner wrote: post #238
silisili wrote: post #180

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While I agree with the general sentiment, I think the same could have been said regardless of which candidate won. It feels like the left moved left, the right moved right, and instead of catering to moderates, threatening them to pick a side. Said another way, I think a young Jimmy Carter type candidate would have wiped the floor with either side this election.

I'm not sure what you mean by the left moving left. In my view, if anything the left wing has been moving rightward for at least a couple decades. Just not as far or quickly right as the right wing.

Totally agree. I see nothing 'left' in the current democratic party. Pro wars, pro boarder hardening, no real effort on healthcare. Slowly but surely they are turning towards the 'conservative' path. Arguably that is one of the big reasons they lost. They are trying to be the Republican Lite party.

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Post by johnnyanmac »

mmooss wrote: post #502
fargle wrote: post #346

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> The centrist Dems always blame those further left, not themselves. They did it in 2016 and this year too. well, unless there is an big untapped electorate even further left, that would make a lot of sense actually, wouldn't it?

Why would that make a lot of sense? Is there a large untapped electorate elsewhere on the spectrum? And more importantly, is there any evidence?

You're asking for a lot of evidence on what's overall the opinions of an entire country. Something entire electorial campaigns apparently struggle to do despite their funding ballooning.

You have to do that research yourself, that isn't a question answered within HN's character limit. But Bernie's popularity along the youth probably was not just some trend, to help you start.

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Post by johnnyanmac »

readthenotes1 wrote: post #71
jmclnx wrote: post #20

Looking back, to me he was a much better president then people believed in the 80s. I believe if he got re-elected in 1980, the US would be in a much better place. One thing, it could be argued real work on Climate Change would have begun in 1981 as opposed to where we are now, which is just watching the average probably blowing past 3C in around 70 years from now. For his loss in 1980, I still blame Kennedy. RIP, he…

Look a little harder. The people living through the 1970s knew how bad he was and chose to put him out. He had bad staff, bad relations with the overwhelmingly Democratic Congress, and we got the Mayaguez, iran hostage, stagflation, and other troubles too many to list. He was a bad president, a good man, and a great ex-president.

All I get from this is that Amiercan doesn't want "good men" as president and crumble everytime their personal economy feels bad, clearly caused by whoever is currently sitting.
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