That could be a nail in the coffin to end VW, the EU GDPR is quite a sharp weapon.
The problem was caused by Cariad, not VW directly. Cariad will be held responsible for, not VW.
VW breach exposes location of 800k electric vehicles
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#102Based on what sort of data was exposed, it seems plausible that it is one of the services from WirelessCar.
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#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
I hate touchscreen buttons too and unfortunately all EVs I've seen have adopted that. I wonder if there are EVs with good old fashioned mechanical buttons.
Many EVs have a sensible amount of buttons, and you generally don’t need the touchscreen for driving or much else for that matter. I can even keep driving while the whole system is rebooting. Around here (where we have many immigrants and some odd practices) I’ve seen people with a towel hanging over their screen while driving, to protect it like a dust cover I guess. The one thing you might argue I do need from my s…
At least you're still acknowledging the abysmal state of modern cars by including this statement. Why on earth would anyone expect otherwise from a car?
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#104EVs are topping the list of (imho) useless extras in cars. I'm still cherishing my Honda Fit pre-touchscreen edition. I'm going to drive it until it will fall apart. My next car will be an EV but I have yet to find one that still comes with mechanical features (door handles, knobs/buttons), without a whole battery of surveillance/telemetry tech and (crossing fingers) exchangable batteries. Simple electric propulsion…
I hate touchscreen buttons too and unfortunately all EVs I've seen have adopted that. I wonder if there are EVs with good old fashioned mechanical buttons.
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#105Earlier quoted context omitted.
Too big to fail and too much of it is state owned, either directly, or through government-owned retirement funds. The government will investigate itself and find no wrongdoings, let's go after the journalists who committed the ultimate crime: Embarassing Officials.
Oh yea, that big gubmint is the one to blame! Never mind that it's a for-profit company that does the surveiling, and wrote the faulty IT structure. Neoliberal religion runs deep...
no one is denying it's a for profit company, but its governance model doesn't really scream "neoliberalism". assuming you're from the US, (German) enterprises like VW are vastly different from what exists in the US, not just in the terms of their structure but also their influence on Germany and EU.
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#106EVs are topping the list of (imho) useless extras in cars. I'm still cherishing my Honda Fit pre-touchscreen edition. I'm going to drive it until it will fall apart. My next car will be an EV but I have yet to find one that still comes with mechanical features (door handles, knobs/buttons), without a whole battery of surveillance/telemetry tech and (crossing fingers) exchangable batteries. Simple electric propulsion…
Expensive yes but might be worth it if you value your privacy.
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#107EVs are topping the list of (imho) useless extras in cars. I'm still cherishing my Honda Fit pre-touchscreen edition. I'm going to drive it until it will fall apart. My next car will be an EV but I have yet to find one that still comes with mechanical features (door handles, knobs/buttons), without a whole battery of surveillance/telemetry tech and (crossing fingers) exchangable batteries. Simple electric propulsion…
You can convert an old car to EV. There are comoanies speciliazing in this, mostly to convert classics that needed a ton of maintenance. Expensive yes but might be worth it if you value your privacy.
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#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
Many EVs have a sensible amount of buttons, and you generally don’t need the touchscreen for driving or much else for that matter. I can even keep driving while the whole system is rebooting. Around here (where we have many immigrants and some odd practices) I’ve seen people with a towel hanging over their screen while driving, to protect it like a dust cover I guess. The one thing you might argue I do need from my s…
I can even keep driving while the whole system is rebooting At least you're still acknowledging the abysmal state of modern cars by including this statement. Why on earth would anyone expect otherwise from a car?
EVs are computers on wheels, expecting them to work during reboot is not unlike expecting vim to work during a reboot :)
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#109We need a way to disable vehicle telemetry. No, a software switch is not enough. We need to be able to physically unplug the cellular modem entirely and have the vehicle work with 100% functionality (barring features which inherently require cellular connectivity like turning the heating on remotely) Car manufacturers' features are mostly useless anyway thanks to Android Auto/Apple CarPlay
The simplicity makes me think that law-makers can understand it.
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#110Why the sideways fuck did they even have location data to begin with? It's like the checklist for buying a new car starts with figuring out what circuit drives the cell modem and pop that fuse out before taking a test drive to confirm it doesn't brick anything critical. Fucking ridiculous.