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More than 140 Kenya Facebook moderators sue after diagnoses of PTSD

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Re: More than 140 Kenya Facebook moderators sue after diagnoses of PTSD

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Post by int_19h »

newsclues wrote: post #104
int_19h wrote: post #87

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It's not that we're particularly fragile, given the kind of physical trauma human beings can survive and recover from. It's that we have technologically engineered things that are destructive enough to get even past that threshold. Modern warfare in particular is insanely energetic in the most literal, physical way - when you measure the energy output of weapons in joules. Partly because we're just that good at makin…

Humans can render other humans unrecognizable with a rock. Brutal murder is low tech.

Not at scale.

Re: More than 140 Kenya Facebook moderators sue after diagnoses of PTSD

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Post by Dalewyn »

Eisenstein wrote: post #179
Dalewyn wrote: post #161

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You're not grasping the point, which I don't necessarily blame you. Imagine that to cook that pork chop, the chef starts by butchering a live pig. Also imagine that he does that in view of everyone in the restaurant rather than in the "backyard" kitchen let alone a separate butchering facility hundreds of miles away. That's the sushi chef butchering and serving a live fish he grabbed from the tank behind him. When yo…

I grasp the point just fine, but you haven't convinced me that it is correct. The issue most people would have with seeing the sausage being made isn't necessarily watching the slaughtering process but with seeing pieces of the animal used for food that they would not want to eat.

But isn't that the point? If someone is fine eating something so long as he is ignorant or naive, doesn't that point to a detachment from reality?

Re: More than 140 Kenya Facebook moderators sue after diagnoses of PTSD

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Post by stephenitis »

noduerme wrote: post #89
narrator wrote: post #66

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Yes, these jobs are horrible. However, I do know from accidently encountering bad stuff on the internet that you want to be as far away from a modern battlefield as possible. It's just kind of ridiculous how people think war is like Call of Duty. One minute you're sitting in a trench, the next you're a pile of undifferentiated blood and guts. Same goes for car accidents and stuff. People really underestimate how frag…

Watching someone you love die of cancer is also super damaging to one's concept of normal life. Getting a diagnosis, or being in a bad car accident, or the victim of a violent assault is, too. I think a personal sense of normality is nothing more than the state of mind where we can blissfully (and temporarily) forget about our own mortality. Obviously, marinating yourself in all the horrible stuff makes it really har…

hey kid, hope you're having a good life. I'll look at the screen full of the worst the internet and humanity has produced on the internet for eight hours.

I get your idea but in the context of this topic I think you're overreaching

Re: More than 140 Kenya Facebook moderators sue after diagnoses of PTSD

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Post by Eisenstein »

Dalewyn wrote: post #182
Eisenstein wrote: post #179

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I grasp the point just fine, but you haven't convinced me that it is correct. The issue most people would have with seeing the sausage being made isn't necessarily watching the slaughtering process but with seeing pieces of the animal used for food that they would not want to eat.

But isn't that the point? If someone is fine eating something so long as he is ignorant or naive, doesn't that point to a detachment from reality?

I wouldn't want to eat a cockroach regardless of whether I saw it being prepared or not. The point I am making is that 'feeling sick' and not wanting to eat something isn't about being disconnected from the food. Few people would care if you cut off a piece of steak from a hanging slab and grilled it in front of them, but would find it gross to pick up all the little pieces of gristle and organ meat that fell onto the floor, grind it all up, shove it into an intestine, and cook it.

Re: More than 140 Kenya Facebook moderators sue after diagnoses of PTSD

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Post by sellmesoap »

jkestner wrote: post #43

Borrowing the thought from Ed Zitron, but when you think about it, most of us are exposing ourselves to low-grade trauma when we step onto the internet now.

What's more; popular TV shows regularly have scenes that could cause trauma, the media has been ramping up the intensity of content for years. I think it's simply seeking more word of mouth 'did you see GoT last night? Oh my gosh so and so did such and such to so and so!'

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Post by 6yyyyyy »

dyauspitr wrote: post #92
crystal_revenge wrote: post #74

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From the first paragraph of the article: > post-traumatic stress disorder caused by exposure to graphic social media content including murders, suicides, child sexual abuse and terrorism. If you want a taste of the legal portion of theses just got to 4chan.org/gif/catalog and look for a "rekt", "war", "gore", or "women hate" thread. Watch every video there for 8-10 hours a day. Now remember this is the legal portion…

As someone that grew up with 4chan I got pretty desensitized to all of the above very quickly. Only thing I couldn’t watch was animal abuse videos. That was all yers ago though, now I’m fully sensitized to all of it again.

That fucking guy torturing monkeys :(

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Post by newsclues »

int_19h wrote: post #181
newsclues wrote: post #104

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Humans can render other humans unrecognizable with a rock. Brutal murder is low tech.

Not at scale.

Armies scale up.

It’s like the original massive scale organization.

Re: More than 140 Kenya Facebook moderators sue after diagnoses of PTSD

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Post by sabbaticaldev »

Eisenstein wrote: post #155
AnarchismIsCool wrote: post #149

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Lots of people who spend time working with livestock on a farm describe a certain acceptance and understanding of death that most modern people have lost.

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Re: More than 140 Kenya Facebook moderators sue after diagnoses of PTSD

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Post by whacko_quacko »

chimeracoder wrote: post #139
HenryBemis wrote: post #50

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You don't mention the year(s), but I recently listened to Jordan Peterson's podcast episode 503. One Woman’s War on P*rnhub | Laila Mickelwait. I will go ahead and assume that on the wild/carefree time of PornHub, when anyone could be able to upload anything and everything, from what that lady said, the numbers of pedophilia videos, bestiality, etc. was rampant.

> You don't mention the year(s), but I recently listened to Jordan Peterson's podcast episode 503. One Woman’s War on P*rnhub | Laila Mickelwait. Laila Mickelwait is a director at Exodus Cry, formerly known as Morality in Media (yes, that's their original name). Exodus Cry/Morality in Media is an explicitly Christian organization that openly seeks to outlaw all forms of pornography, in addition to outlawing abortion…

Sure, but who did the proactive flagging back then? Probably moderators. Seems like a shitty job nonetheless
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