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Re: Xiaomi Home Integration for Home Assistant

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Post by birdman3131 »

dietr1ch wrote: post #61
diggan wrote: post #40

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I think (some correct me) you can group most devices into the following categories: 1. Device requires internet for setup, and for usage 2. Device requires internet for setup, but after that don't need it anymore 3. Device can be fully setup without internet, and used without internet Personally I aim to be fully within 3 as much as I can, but some devices are really hard to find at a good price point that falls into…

I'm not buying any device that's not 3, everything else turns into a brick as soon as there's some larger change. I have some older Google Speakers, and while they seemed to be 2, after being powered off for long enough they can't be set up again, not even with internet access since their firmware was also outdated and the app isn't able to set them up again.

I am ok with devices that default to 2 but can be converted to 3.

Don't recall if Shelly's default to 2 or 3 but I like that you can flash em to tasmota for a gaurenteed 3.

Re: Xiaomi Home Integration for Home Assistant

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Post by sedatk »

mavamaarten wrote: post #75
diggan wrote: post #43

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> I've landed on a mixture of MQTT and Zigbee communicating devices Almost everything I use is ZigBee, but at first, I used the built-in Zigbee support for it, not realizing what I was missing out on. After a move, I setup everything again, but this time via ZigBee2MQTT instead and the compatibility is miles ahead of the built-in integration. Just a word of advice to others who are using the built-in integration atm,…

I've actually done my migration the other way around. I started with zigbee2mqtt, saw that HA now offers ZHA and switched to that. It just works with all devices I own, so the end result is one less moving part I need to update so the choice was easy.

Yes, I see all the praises about Z2M, but don’t see any details how it’s better. ZHA works just fine for me?

Re: Xiaomi Home Integration for Home Assistant

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Post by tills13 »

mavamaarten wrote: post #75
diggan wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I've landed on a mixture of MQTT and Zigbee communicating devices Almost everything I use is ZigBee, but at first, I used the built-in Zigbee support for it, not realizing what I was missing out on. After a move, I setup everything again, but this time via ZigBee2MQTT instead and the compatibility is miles ahead of the built-in integration. Just a word of advice to others who are using the built-in integration atm,…

I've actually done my migration the other way around. I started with zigbee2mqtt, saw that HA now offers ZHA and switched to that. It just works with all devices I own, so the end result is one less moving part I need to update so the choice was easy.

The nice part about mqtt is other things can subscribe to the same stream. I've also seen people do some really interesting things with hosting a copy of HA in the cloud -- this is what they connect to while outside their network -- and using mqtt to push updates to a local HA.

Re: Xiaomi Home Integration for Home Assistant

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Post by ashayh »

Someone1234 wrote: post #9

I include this when considering buying something integrated. For example Philips Hue is overpriced, but their Home Assistant integration is top tier and ultra-reliable. Contrast that with myQ garage door openers (LiftMaster, Chamberlain and Craftsman) recently breaking Home Assistant support on purpose, to essentially replace it with nothing, and they're dead to me. So Xiaomi adding support, assuming it is reliable,…

Try Konnected for garage doors. https://konnected.io/collections/shop-now?filter.p.tag=Smart...

Have 2 of them and work great.

Re: Xiaomi Home Integration for Home Assistant

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Post by sedatk »

pininja wrote: post #42
michaelmior wrote: post #19

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In case anyone using a myQ opener comes across this, I feel the need to mention ratgdo which many have found to be a great inexpensive upgrade. https://ratcloud.llc/

Can this detect if you’re left your garage door open for a while and notify me?

As long as it can report open/close status, you can create an automation for that. That’s what I did.

Re: Xiaomi Home Integration for Home Assistant

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Post by mrandish »

diggan wrote: post #40
WaitWaitWha wrote: post #14

In my opinion this is not Xiaomi into Home Assistant (HA). To me, an integration would mean that I need nothing from Xiaomi, all activities are within HA. from the Github page[0]: > Xiaomi Home Integration and the affiliated cloud interface is provided by Xiaomi officially. You need to use your Xiaomi account to login to get your device list. Xiaomi Home Integration implements OAuth 2.0 login process, which does not…

I think (some correct me) you can group most devices into the following categories: 1. Device requires internet for setup, and for usage 2. Device requires internet for setup, but after that don't need it anymore 3. Device can be fully setup without internet, and used without internet Personally I aim to be fully within 3 as much as I can, but some devices are really hard to find at a good price point that falls into…

I like the taxonomy you've outlined. It would be great if the Home Assistant org were to formalize something like it into levels with logos manufacturers could use in ads and packaging. It would help clarify products for users and, most importantly, provide an incentive for manufacturers toward more local-first interop.

It might be good to invert the order above and name the levels with something like Platinum, Gold, Silver to clearly signal better and best. Manufacturer's marketing people love having external compliance logos, especially manufacturers of commodity hardware.

Re: Xiaomi Home Integration for Home Assistant

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Post by tills13 »

microtonal wrote: post #74
Someone1234 wrote: post #9

I include this when considering buying something integrated. For example Philips Hue is overpriced, but their Home Assistant integration is top tier and ultra-reliable. Contrast that with myQ garage door openers (LiftMaster, Chamberlain and Craftsman) recently breaking Home Assistant support on purpose, to essentially replace it with nothing, and they're dead to me. So Xiaomi adding support, assuming it is reliable,…

For example Philips Hue is overpriced, I wouldn't call them overpriced (at least not all products), their quality is typically great, you get what you pay for. We have had Hue lights for over 10 years (pretty much every light in our house is Hue) and never had any issues. I think over that period one light broke. And like you said, the integration is great. In our house we have it configured to use both through the H…

Yup. I paid like $40CAD for a single Hue lightbulb in 2017 and it's still going. In that time, I've had countless cheap Canadian Tire brand (NOMA) & Walmart brand LED bulbs burn out and need replacing totaling WAY more than $40.

I just looked and they have gotten like 20% more expensive though... that said, their non-smart bulbs are still pretty affordable comparatively.

Re: Xiaomi Home Integration for Home Assistant

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Post by mgrandl »

tetris11 wrote: post #26

Just use ZigBee or Z-wave devices and then use a bridge to connect to HA. Anything else is just WiFi and vendor lockdown

Some of the best home automation stuff is cloud-less wifi. For example Shelly switches with Tasmota are awesome and I much prefer those over zigbee bulbs.

Re: Xiaomi Home Integration for Home Assistant

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Post by michaelmior »

dingnuts wrote: post #36
michaelmior wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In case anyone using a myQ opener comes across this, I feel the need to mention ratgdo which many have found to be a great inexpensive upgrade. https://ratcloud.llc/

It's inexpensive if you discount the cost of your education learning how to wire in something like that. There's an order of magnitude difference in project size between setting up the old MyQ integration with home assistant and learning how to use.. whatever that thing is. Sometimes I think clever and educated people forget what it's like to be less intelligent or educated. I want a solution I can download :(

That's a fair point, but it's still likely less expensive than replacing your existing opener if you include the cost of an electrician doing the wiring for you.

Re: Xiaomi Home Integration for Home Assistant

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Post by Croftengea »

cassianoleal wrote: post #52
diggan wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I've landed on a mixture of MQTT and Zigbee communicating devices Almost everything I use is ZigBee, but at first, I used the built-in Zigbee support for it, not realizing what I was missing out on. After a move, I setup everything again, but this time via ZigBee2MQTT instead and the compatibility is miles ahead of the built-in integration. Just a word of advice to others who are using the built-in integration atm,…

I experimented a bit with ZHA (native Zigbee integration) but soon realised I needed something better, and Z2M was that something. It had all been working wonderfully, until I had a problem recently that meant I had to redo the entire Zigbee setup. I run HAOS on a VM, with the Zigbee radio being passed through from the host. Recently I wanted to play with Thread so I added a radio and passed it through to the VM as w…

> At this point the hardware side of things was fine but my Zigbee network was gone.

How come the hardware was ok but the network was gone? Did some Z2M config files go wrong because of two dongles? Did you try to restore VM from snapshots?

Losing the network and having to re-pair everything would be a nightmare for me given the number of Zigbee devices I run (~35) and that some of them are mounted in switch boxes in the walls.

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