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Re: Xiaomi Home Integration for Home Assistant

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Post by microtonal »

nemomarx wrote: post #58
reaperducer wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

they could pull the plug on their access to cloud service It's happened to me twice. The first time was about seven years ago, when Fiet Electric sent out a software update that deliberately bricked all of its home hubs, and consequentially turned all of the connected smart light bulbs into dumb light bulbs. Speculation on IoT forums at the time was that Fiet failed to properly license some piece of code that was cri…

what's the state of bulbs that don't use apps? I have some from IKEA that get paired to a Bluetooth remote, and it seems pretty good for now but I'm kinda nervous about relying on a device like that.

Philips Hue uses Zigbee and the quality of Hue lights is really excellent (both the lights themselves and longevity, our oldest lights are over 10 years). A lot of Ikea devices also use Zigbee, though it sometimes takes a while before they are supported properly by SmartThings, Home Assistant, etc.

Re: Xiaomi Home Integration for Home Assistant

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Post by mschild »

nemomarx wrote: post #58
reaperducer wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

they could pull the plug on their access to cloud service It's happened to me twice. The first time was about seven years ago, when Fiet Electric sent out a software update that deliberately bricked all of its home hubs, and consequentially turned all of the connected smart light bulbs into dumb light bulbs. Speculation on IoT forums at the time was that Fiet failed to properly license some piece of code that was cri…

what's the state of bulbs that don't use apps? I have some from IKEA that get paired to a Bluetooth remote, and it seems pretty good for now but I'm kinda nervous about relying on a device like that.

IKEA bulbs use mostly Zigbee, can be paired directly with their remote so don't require any hub, and connect directly with any Home Assistant with a Zigbee dongle like Sonoff.

Re: Xiaomi Home Integration for Home Assistant

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Post by morsch »

cassianoleal wrote: post #55
darknavi wrote: post #44

I'll be the one to plug Valetudo in this thread I guess. Primitively, it replaces the cloud functionality on-device for robot vacuums (see supported models) and replaces it with local services that run offline and can connect to Home Assistant easily. I will never buy another robot vacuum without Valetudo support as long as that project lives. It's great. https://valetudo.cloud/

I've been eyeing Valetudo for a while. I think it's a shame that it doesn't and (according to the author) never will support multiple maps. I don't want to have to buy a separate robot for each floor when I can easily carry it to the next floor when it's done.

Some robots support restoring map snapshots. I wonder what's stopping people from using this as a multi floor implementation?

Re: Xiaomi Home Integration for Home Assistant

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Post by microtonal »

Someone1234 wrote: post #9

I include this when considering buying something integrated. For example Philips Hue is overpriced, but their Home Assistant integration is top tier and ultra-reliable. Contrast that with myQ garage door openers (LiftMaster, Chamberlain and Craftsman) recently breaking Home Assistant support on purpose, to essentially replace it with nothing, and they're dead to me. So Xiaomi adding support, assuming it is reliable,…

For example Philips Hue is overpriced,

I wouldn't call them overpriced (at least not all products), their quality is typically great, you get what you pay for. We have had Hue lights for over 10 years (pretty much every light in our house is Hue) and never had any issues. I think over that period one light broke. And like you said, the integration is great. In our house we have it configured to use both through the Hue hub and SmartThings.

Re: Xiaomi Home Integration for Home Assistant

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Post by mavamaarten »

diggan wrote: post #43
carlgreene wrote: post #20

Home Assistant is one of the best open source projects I've come across. I've been using it for 5+ years on an older RPi and it's been pretty rock solid. Countless updates and everything just keeps on chugging. I've landed on a mixture of MQTT and Zigbee communicating devices, the latter being much easier to set up and maintain. There's an integration for just about everything I've wanted, some better than others, bu…

> I've landed on a mixture of MQTT and Zigbee communicating devices Almost everything I use is ZigBee, but at first, I used the built-in Zigbee support for it, not realizing what I was missing out on. After a move, I setup everything again, but this time via ZigBee2MQTT instead and the compatibility is miles ahead of the built-in integration. Just a word of advice to others who are using the built-in integration atm,…

I've actually done my migration the other way around. I started with zigbee2mqtt, saw that HA now offers ZHA and switched to that. It just works with all devices I own, so the end result is one less moving part I need to update so the choice was easy.

Re: Xiaomi Home Integration for Home Assistant

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Post by VTimofeenko »

asveikau wrote: post #37
VTimofeenko wrote: post #23

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I am looking to install a garage opener and due to meatspace constraints I will probably have to use jackshaft. Jackshafts are predominantly LiftMaster and Chamberlain => the smarts are myQ, which I don't want anywhere near my network. Genie jackshafts seem fine, but Genie's reputation is bad to the point where garage door companies may refuse to work on them. These motors also usually come with the ability to hook u…

Not sure how it works with a jackshaft vs. the more traditional residential opener, but ratgdo can speak the myQ protocol and control it from mqtt or home assistant. I have it working with my Chamberlain opener as do many others.

Besides the questionable rent-seeking behavior from myQ:

* I don't want to use an integration that needs a round-trip through the cloud to work. Long-term changes are inevitable (company goes out of business, randomly changes API, etc.)

* I fundamentally do not like Amazon Key integration. It gives someone else control over my security hardware which makes me very uncomfortable. I am not sure if it's opt-in or out, but the point is that a myQ device that is installed _can_ be configured to let arbitrary third party to open the door.

If I have a choice, I'd rather set up a system that I control from the get-go rather than try to lobotomize a system that I can't fully control.

Re: Xiaomi Home Integration for Home Assistant

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Post by reaperducer »

ortusdux wrote: post #31
Someone1234 wrote: post #9

I include this when considering buying something integrated. For example Philips Hue is overpriced, but their Home Assistant integration is top tier and ultra-reliable. Contrast that with myQ garage door openers (LiftMaster, Chamberlain and Craftsman) recently breaking Home Assistant support on purpose, to essentially replace it with nothing, and they're dead to me. So Xiaomi adding support, assuming it is reliable,…

I wish FEIT devices were compatible. I've seen their smart bulbs at costco for as low as $2.50/ea.

There's a reason Feit is so cheap.

Re: Xiaomi Home Integration for Home Assistant

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Post by brnt »

pkulak wrote: post #70
asveikau wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is how a lot of home assistant integrations work. Sure, many HA users (self included) try to avoid dependence on cloud services and opt for local only solutions, such as zwave or ZigBee or products that work with local-only wifi. But the nature of the beast is that some devices out there are built to talk only to a cloud service. Having a company start an upstream project is probably a better sign than not havin…

> This is how a lot of home assistant integrations work. And it how the _current_ integration works. So what are we gaining here? I certainly don't yet have any option for a vacuum that isn't Valetudo.

Although I bought my Dreame D10 because its on the Valetudo compat list, I actually never put it on, because it turns out OOB you actually don't need to setup anything for the regular mop function to work. It's entirely unconnected, which I prefer anyway. I miss out on remote access and mopping only parts of the room, but I can live with this trade off.

Once they turn them into true IoT shits, then I'll be worried.

Re: Xiaomi Home Integration for Home Assistant

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Post by sofixa »

pkulak wrote: post #70
asveikau wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is how a lot of home assistant integrations work. Sure, many HA users (self included) try to avoid dependence on cloud services and opt for local only solutions, such as zwave or ZigBee or products that work with local-only wifi. But the nature of the beast is that some devices out there are built to talk only to a cloud service. Having a company start an upstream project is probably a better sign than not havin…

> This is how a lot of home assistant integrations work. And it how the _current_ integration works. So what are we gaining here? I certainly don't yet have any option for a vacuum that isn't Valetudo.

> And it how the _current_ integration works. So what are we gaining here

An official integration, supported (for whatever that's worth) by Xiaomi instead of random people reverse engineering their API until the next breaking change, or even worse, them deciding "this is DDoS so we'll ban anyone from using our API".

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