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Re: Xiaomi Home Integration for Home Assistant

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Post by bitdivision »

echoangle wrote: post #34
Someone1234 wrote: post #9

I include this when considering buying something integrated. For example Philips Hue is overpriced, but their Home Assistant integration is top tier and ultra-reliable. Contrast that with myQ garage door openers (LiftMaster, Chamberlain and Craftsman) recently breaking Home Assistant support on purpose, to essentially replace it with nothing, and they're dead to me. So Xiaomi adding support, assuming it is reliable,…

Look for Zigbee devices and most stuff just works out of the box. And when you’re not upgrading firmware, there’s no way for the manufacturer to break anything.

Zigbee is wonderful, especially alongside things like zigbee2mqtt device support [0]. The downside is that its not uncommon to see non-compliant devices, or buggy implementations which is almost more annoying.

I recently installed a zigbee thermostat in my bathroom, which turned out to be flooding the network and causing the rest of my network to become unstable

[0]: https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/supported-devices/

Re: Xiaomi Home Integration for Home Assistant

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Post by pininja »

michaelmior wrote: post #19
Someone1234 wrote: post #9

I include this when considering buying something integrated. For example Philips Hue is overpriced, but their Home Assistant integration is top tier and ultra-reliable. Contrast that with myQ garage door openers (LiftMaster, Chamberlain and Craftsman) recently breaking Home Assistant support on purpose, to essentially replace it with nothing, and they're dead to me. So Xiaomi adding support, assuming it is reliable,…

In case anyone using a myQ opener comes across this, I feel the need to mention ratgdo which many have found to be a great inexpensive upgrade. https://ratcloud.llc/

Can this detect if you’re left your garage door open for a while and notify me?

Re: Xiaomi Home Integration for Home Assistant

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Post by diggan »

carlgreene wrote: post #20

Home Assistant is one of the best open source projects I've come across. I've been using it for 5+ years on an older RPi and it's been pretty rock solid. Countless updates and everything just keeps on chugging. I've landed on a mixture of MQTT and Zigbee communicating devices, the latter being much easier to set up and maintain. There's an integration for just about everything I've wanted, some better than others, bu…

> I've landed on a mixture of MQTT and Zigbee communicating devices

Almost everything I use is ZigBee, but at first, I used the built-in Zigbee support for it, not realizing what I was missing out on.

After a move, I setup everything again, but this time via ZigBee2MQTT instead and the compatibility is miles ahead of the built-in integration.

Just a word of advice to others who are using the built-in integration atm, not realizing the big difference between the two :)

Re: Xiaomi Home Integration for Home Assistant

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Post by darknavi »

I'll be the one to plug Valetudo in this thread I guess. Primitively, it replaces the cloud functionality on-device for robot vacuums (see supported models) and replaces it with local services that run offline and can connect to Home Assistant easily.

I will never buy another robot vacuum without Valetudo support as long as that project lives. It's great.

https://valetudo.cloud/

Re: Xiaomi Home Integration for Home Assistant

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Post by room500 »

pininja wrote: post #42
michaelmior wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In case anyone using a myQ opener comes across this, I feel the need to mention ratgdo which many have found to be a great inexpensive upgrade. https://ratcloud.llc/

Can this detect if you’re left your garage door open for a while and notify me?

I added ratgdo to my HomeAssistant and have HomeAssisteant send notifications if the garage door is open (with a button that closes it)

Re: Xiaomi Home Integration for Home Assistant

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Post by lotsofpulp »

dingnuts wrote: post #36
michaelmior wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In case anyone using a myQ opener comes across this, I feel the need to mention ratgdo which many have found to be a great inexpensive upgrade. https://ratcloud.llc/

It's inexpensive if you discount the cost of your education learning how to wire in something like that. There's an order of magnitude difference in project size between setting up the old MyQ integration with home assistant and learning how to use.. whatever that thing is. Sometimes I think clever and educated people forget what it's like to be less intelligent or educated. I want a solution I can download :(

Perhaps an iSmartGate Pro works?

https://ismartgate.com/ismartgate-pro/

Re: Xiaomi Home Integration for Home Assistant

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Post by 3abiton »

diggan wrote: post #43
carlgreene wrote: post #20

Home Assistant is one of the best open source projects I've come across. I've been using it for 5+ years on an older RPi and it's been pretty rock solid. Countless updates and everything just keeps on chugging. I've landed on a mixture of MQTT and Zigbee communicating devices, the latter being much easier to set up and maintain. There's an integration for just about everything I've wanted, some better than others, bu…

> I've landed on a mixture of MQTT and Zigbee communicating devices Almost everything I use is ZigBee, but at first, I used the built-in Zigbee support for it, not realizing what I was missing out on. After a move, I setup everything again, but this time via ZigBee2MQTT instead and the compatibility is miles ahead of the built-in integration. Just a word of advice to others who are using the built-in integration atm,…

I second Zigbee2mqtt. Koen's work is legedenary, I also been fascinated by Zigbee and been using ever since. No need to 3rd part oem vendor lock-in. 99% of the devices I purchased currently nearly 52 on my zigbee network, were paird hassle free.

Re: Xiaomi Home Integration for Home Assistant

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Post by reaperducer »

asveikau wrote: post #33
WaitWaitWha wrote: post #14

In my opinion this is not Xiaomi into Home Assistant (HA). To me, an integration would mean that I need nothing from Xiaomi, all activities are within HA. from the Github page[0]: > Xiaomi Home Integration and the affiliated cloud interface is provided by Xiaomi officially. You need to use your Xiaomi account to login to get your device list. Xiaomi Home Integration implements OAuth 2.0 login process, which does not…

This is how a lot of home assistant integrations work. Sure, many HA users (self included) try to avoid dependence on cloud services and opt for local only solutions, such as zwave or ZigBee or products that work with local-only wifi. But the nature of the beast is that some devices out there are built to talk only to a cloud service. Having a company start an upstream project is probably a better sign than not havin…

they could pull the plug on their access to cloud service

It's happened to me twice.

The first time was about seven years ago, when Fiet Electric sent out a software update that deliberately bricked all of its home hubs, and consequentially turned all of the connected smart light bulbs into dumb light bulbs. Speculation on IoT forums at the time was that Fiet failed to properly license some piece of code that was critical to its system; but that was all speculation. I seem to recall that Fiet put out an e-mail long after the fact letting people know they could no longer use their "smart" devices.

The second time was earlier this year, when Sylvania ended its cloud service, and turned its smart bulbs into merely clever bulbs. They'll still work with the stand-alone Sylvania app, but new bulbs can no longer be added to Apple HomeKit setups. So you need to use two apps (Home and Sylvania) to control the devices in your home. That is, until the Sylvania app is no longer available in the App Store, or compatible with modern devices.

Avoiding Fiet Electric products was easy. But I thought I'd be safe with a big name like Sylvania.

The "L" in IoT stands for "Longevity."

Re: Xiaomi Home Integration for Home Assistant

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Post by pawelduda »

jsheard wrote: post #21
pawelduda wrote: post #3

I have some xiaomi bulbs that used to work until I needed to re-pair them to a new wifi and (unofficial) integration kept asking me for pairing code - which is nowhere to be found. I probably got rid of the boxes where it's supposed to be located. Wonder if there's a workaround for that.

I think WiFi IoT stuff has a reputation for being janky pretty much across the board, the recommendation is usually to use Zigbee stuff instead wherever possible. That also has the security advantage of keeping the devices on their own little network that can't access your LAN or the internet directly.

Yeah - I bought them before I got into this, so thought it'd be nice to make use of them

Defaulting to zigbee for anything new

Re: Xiaomi Home Integration for Home Assistant

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Post by qwertox »

carlgreene wrote: post #20

Home Assistant is one of the best open source projects I've come across. I've been using it for 5+ years on an older RPi and it's been pretty rock solid. Countless updates and everything just keeps on chugging. I've landed on a mixture of MQTT and Zigbee communicating devices, the latter being much easier to set up and maintain. There's an integration for just about everything I've wanted, some better than others, bu…

I've been rolling my own stuff, mostly devices posting to custom python servers, storing data into influxdb and mongodb, triggering other servers on events, and lately also integrating Tasmota devices via MQTT, like the microwave, washing machine, computer monitors, small heating fans and the like. I migrated all Hue devices to zigbee2mqtt and am happy with the flexibility.

Initially (7 years ago?) I refused to use HA because I've all too often had the issue that then projects become stale and I need to migrate to something else.

But lately I've gotten the feeling that HA is really here to stay, with a community big enough for this project not to die and maintaining very good hardware support.

What I'm missing out on is an (Android) app, and I think that this would be a good reason to think about moving over to HA.

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