Apple has tons of user engagement data. You would think they would have a heatmap showing them where their customers are spending a lot of time trying to accomplish a task. I would focus Apple Intelligence, amongst other tools, to reduce the time needed to accomplish that task. If I were the PO, that's how I'd proceed. I'd want my customers to be able to reduce the time they're spending using the phone and yet gettin…
I think the data would likely to show most people are spending time on short videos.
Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far
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#232This is emblematic of the LLM race in general. We’re actively pressured to use co-pilot at work, and it’s crammed into every Microsoft product. I’m thankful that my iPhone is old enough not to use LLMs. Companies are afraid of being left behind in the new arms race, but that doesn’t actually mean that the technology actually present use-cases which most people need. (Worse are the meeting summaries or emails which ar…
What I don't understand is, what benefit is there for 99% of companies to get in on the ground floor of LLMs? If you're not developing your own model, you're effectively just beta testing someone else's model. And if the sales pitch of LLMs being able to do basically anything comes true, wouldn't most companies still get the same benefit if they just wait? It seems like a lot of companies are so terrified of missing…
(This comment is mainly facetiousness borne out of frustration, but the point stands)
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#233Earlier quoted context omitted.
> especially if you're doing varied, novel work. What do you mean by that? In my experience they mostly help when you are doing mainstream, well-trodden work for which a company’s/project’s/domain’s inside knowledge isn’t needed. Maybe you mean the latter by “novel”?
>What do you mean by that? Varied and novel to the programmer . If you're doing the same thing day in and day out it probably isn't much use. If you're like many programmers and you're jumping between libraries and languages and platforms and APIs and domains and spheres, it's immensely helpful. >doing mainstream, well-trodden work for which a company’s/project’s/domain’s inside knowledge isn’t needed A core disconne…
Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far
#234This is emblematic of the LLM race in general. We’re actively pressured to use co-pilot at work, and it’s crammed into every Microsoft product. I’m thankful that my iPhone is old enough not to use LLMs. Companies are afraid of being left behind in the new arms race, but that doesn’t actually mean that the technology actually present use-cases which most people need. (Worse are the meeting summaries or emails which ar…
> We’re actively pressured to use co-pilot at work Unless you work at Microsoft, that's really interesting to me. Can't say I've ever experienced a boss pushing for me to use a certain developer tool.
Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far
#235This is emblematic of the LLM race in general. We’re actively pressured to use co-pilot at work, and it’s crammed into every Microsoft product. I’m thankful that my iPhone is old enough not to use LLMs. Companies are afraid of being left behind in the new arms race, but that doesn’t actually mean that the technology actually present use-cases which most people need. (Worse are the meeting summaries or emails which ar…
I disagree about the summaries. I find them to be vey good and helpful. I teach a high level course and each week have the transcript summarized for students; also get feedback on my lecture and help creating the lesson plan for the following week. My father was Dean of one of the top teachers colleges in the world and has been blown away by how useful LLMs can be for education.
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#236The image playground is fun, but in many ways Siri is worse. Previously I could dictate an entire command + message, and now you have to dictate the command and then wait until it switches to that modality, then sending the command. Notification summaries are great. A couple of my children tend to message a coherent single thought across a rapid-fire set of messages, which previously was condensed down to something l…
My experience with summaries hasn't been much better. The summary provided has been incorrect enough that I can't trust any summaries presented.
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#237Earlier quoted context omitted.
>with a Luddism that somehow actually becomes a rather hilarious attempt at superiority >The people who usually think LLMs aren't valuable to coders generally work on the most boring, copy/paste prattle. Here you are doing the same thing, aren't you? Instead of calling people names, the biggest tell of a weak argument, why don't you explain the type of work you do and how using an LLM is faster than if you coded it y…
But...I'm not doing the same thing. In actuality I'm saying I'm a fairly typical programmer in a common situation: I work across a variety of languages and platforms and toolings and projects, building solutions for problems. The truth is that extraordinarily few programmers are working on anything truly novel. Zero of the readers of this comment are, in all likelihood. The ridiculous notion that someone has so uniqu…
I don't think I'm calling myself a super special snowflake here. These models are just ... bad at sales forecasting.
LLMs aren't entirely useless for me. I'll use ChatGPT to generate code to make plots. That's helpful.
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#238I am using an iPhone 13 Mini, which will need to be pried from my cold, dead, hands. The new "intelligence" hasn't made any difference that I can note, other than a couple of buttons, and Siri seems a bit less dense. On my Mac, the Xcode auto-fill has improved quite a bit. It is now useful enough for me to use (but I still need to check its work, as it hallucinates weird API calls).
Hello, fellow cold-dead-hands iPhone Mini user: iPhone 13 doesn’t support Apple Intelligence, though, right?
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The number of meetings I attend where no notes are taken dwarfs the number with notes taken. Clearly, I must live in a different universe from the rest of everyone here where notes are taken at every meeting
IMO there is no advantage to having "community" notes taken of a meeting: I take my own notes about decisions made in the meeting that I care about, and items I need to take care of. Therefore, every meeting I'm in has notes taken, though no one else is even aware (unless they are taking their own, which I assume many are). I think this is relatively common (since I can't see how one can function in most knowledge wo…
In a meeting with "notes taken", there is someone tasked with doing so in an official manner usually decided by the person coordinating the meeting. It is also typically known by the meeting attendees that this is the case. Those notes are usually made available after the fact in whatever form is normal for that company. In Zoom type meetings, we all get the "recording" notice during the meeting.
What individuals do is not the point of this thread. However, we've seen plenty of examples of where individuals do record on their own devices meetings which were meant to be private but leaked later. Again, that is out of scope for the general purpose of this. Again, you know this. Or at least, you should
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#240Earlier quoted context omitted.
A few days ago, OpenAI released live video integration with Advanced Voice mode for ChatGPT—point your phone at something and ask what it sees, and it will tell you pretty accurately. I thought it was just a cool trick until I read the top comment on their YouTube video announcement: “I'm screaming. As a visually impaired person, this is what I was eagerly waiting for. Still screaming! Thank you, Sam, Kev and the ent…
Is this feature somehow different than what Google has had with lens and what Apple has had with the info button in regular photos for a while now?