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Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Post by brookst »

dylan604 wrote: post #70
EPWN3D wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personally I've found Copilot's meeting summaries to be really good. They're definitely a lot better than most minutes I've ever seen taken contemporaneously.

The crazy thing to me means that people are okay with recording 100% of every meeting they ever have. I've been in plenty of meetings where you just don't want things recorded, and no, that does not mean the meeting was shady.

Other than legally sensitive topics, what meetings would you not want recorded? Do people take notes or are they just totally ephemeral?

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Post by guappa »

nixosbestos wrote: post #95
llm_nerd wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I assume they believe in the advantages, to the company, of using these AI tools. Of adding them to the workflow, training their employees, and understanding quickly how it impacts their space. If you just wait and all of your competitors have a workforce enabled and equipped with the best tools, you are at a disadvantage. It's being the company that put off computerization or automation when everyone else went wild.…

ChatGPT thinks 9.11 > 9.9. I'm in no hurry.

? My calculator does too. Unless you mean (9, 11) > (9, 9) which is an entirely different thing.

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Post by ankit219 »

Not surprising. This is an early alpha phase to be fair, where there isn't enough integration to be wowed. The features are basic, and if you use other Apple apps, you get some help, but it's not as deeply integrated as you would like it.

I think on phones, real value comes from intuitive actions which are integrated deeply. And peripheral vs having to be prompted everytime. Eg: A very simple usecase is just knowing when to disturb via notifications. (eg: disturb me when I need to intervene where something is blowing up in a group chat I have muted. Or automations and insights that come from aggregation. Eg: I get notifications about a spend - smartly put them in a sheet somewhere that i can look at later. Translation, transcription, image editing etc. are all already covered. Those are more nice to haves and not essential at the moment.

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Post by llm_nerd »

ToucanLoucan wrote: post #119
llm_nerd wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I assume they believe in the advantages, to the company, of using these AI tools. Of adding them to the workflow, training their employees, and understanding quickly how it impacts their space. If you just wait and all of your competitors have a workforce enabled and equipped with the best tools, you are at a disadvantage. It's being the company that put off computerization or automation when everyone else went wild.…

> And FWIW, I cannot imagine a programmer, in 2024, that remains dismissive of LLMs or the related tooling. Hi. > While they are grossly oversold by the LinkedIn crowd, That is true. > and are still a far ways from so-called "prompt engineers" replacing devs, Also true. > they're a massive accelerator and "second set of eyes", especially if you're doing varied, novel work. That is not even remotely my experience. Lik…

>Hi.

I was being dismissively rhetorical. I can actually imagine them because we see them on HN constantly, with a Luddism that somehow actually becomes a rather hilarious attempt at superiority. A "well if you actually get use out of them, I guess you're just not at my superior level of Unique Projects and Unique Code". It's honestly just embarrassing at this point.

>but bluntly put, the code I work on day to day is far, far too interesting to be handled by copilot

Hilarious. It's a cliche at this point.

Let me take it further and turn this on its head: The people who usually think LLMs aren't valuable to coders generally work on the most boring, copy/paste prattle. They stick to the same tiny niche all day every day. They're basically implementing the same thing again and again. It's so rote, and they're so profoundly unchallenged, that tooling has no value.

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Post by Havoc »

Unlike other areas they don’t seem to have found any sort of way to apply apple special sauce.

If you’re just doing the same as everyone else then you can’t justify any premium.

Maybe they’ll pull something out of a hat but think if they had something they’d have done it already

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Post by ellisv »

IMO the most useful features are the summarizations – something I'm not sure the average user even recognizes as "AI".

Image/emoji generation isn't really useful but I expect the photo editing capabilities will get a lot better over the next few years. The camera is one of the biggest reasons people buy a new iPhone but most consumers don't realize how much computational photography is involved.

I can definitely see the groundwork for more compelling features.

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Post by jdrek1 »

guappa wrote: post #132
nixosbestos wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ChatGPT thinks 9.11 > 9.9. I'm in no hurry.

? My calculator does too. Unless you mean (9, 11) > (9, 9) which is an entirely different thing.

You should get your calculator checked. 9.11 is definitely less than 9.9

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Post by benrutter »

I think the contrast here is interesting:

> almost half (47.6%) of iPhone users reported AI features as a ‘very’ or ‘somewhat’ important deciding factor when buying a new phone

In the context of:

> 73% of Apple Intelligence users [...] stating the new features to be either ‘not very valuable’ or they ‘add little to no value’ to their smartphone experience.

It's obviously hard/impossible/foolhardy to try and put a story behind these two figures, but it's intesting that a big chunk of people who think AI features are important in a phone, don't actually find those features add any value to them. Maybe people are under the impression that LLMs or plugins will improve significantly?

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Post by mbesto »

everdrive wrote: post #4

This is emblematic of the LLM race in general. We’re actively pressured to use co-pilot at work, and it’s crammed into every Microsoft product. I’m thankful that my iPhone is old enough not to use LLMs. Companies are afraid of being left behind in the new arms race, but that doesn’t actually mean that the technology actually present use-cases which most people need. (Worse are the meeting summaries or emails which ar…

I'm desperately waiting for co-pilot to be implemented at my company for then productivity gains. For example, I assume I'll be able to do the following:

- Select text in any report I create and say "rewrite this in a professional tone"

- I write a sloppy email with a few bullet points of what I'm trying to get to and have it rewrite it in my tone

- Immediately after a call about a new project, present notes of the call with next steps, keep agreements made, etc.

- Search Outlook for specific things like "Kevin from PE Firm LLC said he wanted this report by which date, can you tell me?"

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