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Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Post by mentalgear »

ARandumGuy wrote: post #23
everdrive wrote: post #4

This is emblematic of the LLM race in general. We’re actively pressured to use co-pilot at work, and it’s crammed into every Microsoft product. I’m thankful that my iPhone is old enough not to use LLMs. Companies are afraid of being left behind in the new arms race, but that doesn’t actually mean that the technology actually present use-cases which most people need. (Worse are the meeting summaries or emails which ar…

What I don't understand is, what benefit is there for 99% of companies to get in on the ground floor of LLMs? If you're not developing your own model, you're effectively just beta testing someone else's model. And if the sales pitch of LLMs being able to do basically anything comes true, wouldn't most companies still get the same benefit if they just wait? It seems like a lot of companies are so terrified of missing…

Stock prices goes up for shareholders when the C-suite declares they are integrating "AI". This is a well made and short video about the strategy, but the short of it is: "AI integration is not for the sake of employees, but investor's stock price". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Lxk9NMeWHg

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Post by devin »

llm_nerd wrote: post #65
ARandumGuy wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What I don't understand is, what benefit is there for 99% of companies to get in on the ground floor of LLMs? If you're not developing your own model, you're effectively just beta testing someone else's model. And if the sales pitch of LLMs being able to do basically anything comes true, wouldn't most companies still get the same benefit if they just wait? It seems like a lot of companies are so terrified of missing…

I assume they believe in the advantages, to the company, of using these AI tools. Of adding them to the workflow, training their employees, and understanding quickly how it impacts their space. If you just wait and all of your competitors have a workforce enabled and equipped with the best tools, you are at a disadvantage. It's being the company that put off computerization or automation when everyone else went wild.…

Imagine it. I’m dismissive. The current crop are mediocre interns.

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Post by computerphage »

vargr616 wrote: post #106
jstummbillig wrote: post #68

So, surveys. "Smartphone users in general are unsatisfied with the existing AI features as the survey recorded 73% of Apple Intelligence users and 87% of Galaxy AI users stating the new features to be either ‘not very valuable’ or they ‘add little to no value’ to their smartphone experience." This could be read as 27% of users, who have tried a brand new way of interacting with their phone, found it useful to some de…

I personally know people that would claim a phoneless phone is useful, right away, without having used the device once, as long at it was released by Apple.

To be clear, I think a "phone" as in smartphone, that can't make calls would be mostly as useful for me, personally.

But you might be claiming "people would buy an empty box, if apple put its logo on the box"

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Post by AlienRobot »

Technologies are starting to feel like javascript libraries. Every year there is a new one and the next year nobody cares about it anymore.

I don't understand a lot about AI or quantum computers, but I'm 50% sure in the future we'll be sold QPU's to use AI or something like that.

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Post by buryat »

kemiller2002 wrote: post #15

We have a family friend who is blind and a programmer. It's interesting to hear his perspective. His hope and expectation are that it will greatly increase usability. I've been thrown into the usability deep end due to my wife also losing her sight due to an autoimmune disorder, and my dad losing his sight due to Macular Degeneration. Honestly, it sucks, and I mean like rage quitting, phone throwing sucks. (Try it. T…

in order to cure Macular Degeneration we have to develop many different technologies that can be used for power control, it's inevitable as our history shows cyclical nature and behaviors of humans are predefined throughout the history because conceptually the same ideas and thoughts are being encoded and rehashed and decoded by newer generations.

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Post by pera »

dylan604 wrote: post #86
jstummbillig wrote: post #68

So, surveys. "Smartphone users in general are unsatisfied with the existing AI features as the survey recorded 73% of Apple Intelligence users and 87% of Galaxy AI users stating the new features to be either ‘not very valuable’ or they ‘add little to no value’ to their smartphone experience." This could be read as 27% of users, who have tried a brand new way of interacting with their phone, found it useful to some de…

> This could be read as 27% of users Not necessarily. Poll results are not %Pro + %Con = 100%. It could equally be likely that 83% find no use and 27% have not tried it leaving 0% liking it.

The data is in the linked survey: https://www.sellcell.com/blog/iphone-vs-samsung-ai-survey/

- 11.1% of iPhone's users felt the AI features were "very valuable"

- 5.9% of Samsung Galaxy's users felt the AI features were "very valuable"

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Post by brookst »

everdrive wrote: post #4

This is emblematic of the LLM race in general. We’re actively pressured to use co-pilot at work, and it’s crammed into every Microsoft product. I’m thankful that my iPhone is old enough not to use LLMs. Companies are afraid of being left behind in the new arms race, but that doesn’t actually mean that the technology actually present use-cases which most people need. (Worse are the meeting summaries or emails which ar…

> any sort of LLM writing is a tacit acknowledgement that people don’t really care what they are writing

Couldn’t be further from my experience. I work with a distributed team that has four different native languages, with substantial engineering staff for each.

LLMs have made our cross-geo communications so much better. I can get a summary of a standup that happened overnight (to me) and in a foreign language (to me) when I get up in the morning. I can write idiomatically and naturally without worrying it will be confusing or misinterpreted.

Plenty of people are not naturally talented writers, especially in your language of choice. LLM writing doesn’t mean they don’t care, it means they DO care about communicating clearly.

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Post by guappa »

ARandumGuy wrote: post #23
everdrive wrote: post #4

This is emblematic of the LLM race in general. We’re actively pressured to use co-pilot at work, and it’s crammed into every Microsoft product. I’m thankful that my iPhone is old enough not to use LLMs. Companies are afraid of being left behind in the new arms race, but that doesn’t actually mean that the technology actually present use-cases which most people need. (Worse are the meeting summaries or emails which ar…

What I don't understand is, what benefit is there for 99% of companies to get in on the ground floor of LLMs? If you're not developing your own model, you're effectively just beta testing someone else's model. And if the sales pitch of LLMs being able to do basically anything comes true, wouldn't most companies still get the same benefit if they just wait? It seems like a lot of companies are so terrified of missing…

I think for companies to use them is because employees want to use them and there's tons of blog posts (AI written?) that say it increases productivity and you'll be left behind if you don't adopt it.

For startups that basically implement a frontend to chatgpt or similar… well they have no chance of ever being profitable but investors might not know that.

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