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School smartphone ban results in better sleep and improved mood: study

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Post by Phelinofist »

myko wrote: post #37
chollida1 wrote: post #35

In Ontario/Canada schools banned cell phones with much of any issue at all this year. My friends in the US seems shocked at the fact that kids couldn't have a phone during class hours. When I asked why their main issue was that if kids cell phones were in their lockers, how would they text their parents to say they were ok when their school had a shooting. Which just goes to show how much your environment affects you…

yep, my kids HS has a cloth rack hanging on the door to place phones in so the kids can grab them when a shooting is happening but doesn't have them during class

Honestly this is really sad

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Post by DrawTR »

andrei_says_ wrote: post #119

I bought something called brick which lets me lock some apps with a Bluetooth app. I have to walk to a different room and touch my phone to the little cube magneted to my fridge in order to unlock them. Just this extra friction has halved my screen time. No phone in bed no phone while I’m working and no phone on weekends while I’m bored. Instant improvement in mental clarity and quality of life.

For what it's worth, the product demands $50 for what is essentially a probably (not endorsing it!) find the NFC code online and just dump it to a tag of your own.

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Post by 8note »

guerrilla wrote: post #251
jorisboris wrote: post #181

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My best ideas come in my bed Ideally I have a kale phone to note them Because it’s too easy to go to social after I noted down my idea

You do know paper exists, right? ;)

its hard to write in the dark

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Post by jstummbillig »

jweir wrote: post #190
gregwebs wrote: post #51

> challenged a group of Year 8 pupils to give up their smartphones completely for 21 days. It was not a ban during school. It was complete phone abstinence. The result was that the kids got an entire additional hour of sleep! Perhaps this could be replicated just by putting phones away at night.

Our eldest child has a phone. But it has to be kept downstairs at night - no tech in the bedroom before bed. Hasn’t been a fight or a problem at all.

How old are they and since what age do they have the phone? What constitutes as before bed and at what age do you think you'll lift the no tech restriction entirely?

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Post by grecy »

andai wrote: post #128
gregwebs wrote: post #51

> challenged a group of Year 8 pupils to give up their smartphones completely for 21 days. It was not a ban during school. It was complete phone abstinence. The result was that the kids got an entire additional hour of sleep! Perhaps this could be replicated just by putting phones away at night.

I did a project once where I put my phone away before bed (switched off and in another room) and kept it off for the first few hours of the day, along with my wifi router. I usually got so much done during that time that I'd prefer to keep them off for a few more hours, even after I was "allowed" to turn them back on.

We have our wifi router on an old school power timer. It turns off at 10pm and back on at 8am.

It’s a great signal I need to go to bed.

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Post by GeoAtreides »

WWLink wrote: post #134
gerdesj wrote: post #73

My company is situated across a main road from a college. There are a couple of permissive rights of way across our land to the road and quite a few students walk that way and also up the road. This horror of a link is what Google Maps shows with Street View: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.9469423,-2.6380275,3a,75y,... Our place is the left hand turn off. The college is about 100m further up on the right. Pretend…

I mean, ok? What's the big deal? So you have to drive slowly and carefully and wait for people who are walking and might not be paying the best of attention? I can see how that may be annoying but how many seconds/minutes does it add to your commute such that you would be so bothered about it? Edit: And to clarify, I believe your post is incredibly tame and politely written. I've seen people get super furious over th…

He has to drive slowly, because he knows the road layout, the other drivers though... i think that was OP's point

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Post by vaylian »

Tempest1981 wrote: post #155
lazyasciiart wrote: post #83

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Or if they just had parents controlling them?

I read somewhere that being the only kid without smartphone access is worse (for mental health) than giving your kid a smartphone. I.e. there needs to be consensus among parents.

I suppose that is because of social exclusion. If all the important things are coordinates online and in real-time, then those kids can't participate. Communicating with your peers is much harder when the peer's baseline is "I'll just write a chat message" and it would take considerably more effort to talk to the kid who doesn't have mobile internet access.

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Post by devmor »

gretch wrote: post #236
szszrk wrote: post #226

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Which just shows that communicating through sarcasm brings more harm than benefit. I know, I'm guilty. Currently on "sarcasm rehab" for the sake of people around me and myself.

Some people think sarcasm makes for a smart and sophisticated joke. In reality, it takes very little intelligence to say the opposite of what you mean. Once I reflected on it, I really think it’s such an adolescent way of thinking. If you think you’re smart, then challenge yourself to make a great joke, instead of just saying !(thing).

That kind of sarcasm is not just saying the opposite of what you mean. It’s an attempt to compel the reader into understanding their own flawed rationale by presenting an argument under the reader’s pretense that is obviously flawed.

An adolescent way of thinking would be deriding sarcasm as beneath you intellectually.

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Post by arrowsmith »

emseetech wrote: post #161
adamtaylor_13 wrote: post #136

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I think the implication is that there are parental authorities who can enforce this. Doesn't take much willpower when you've got people who will help you against your will!

We underestimate how much the average parent recognizes the problem. My peers had children and put a tablet in their children's hands almost immediately. Despite many working in tech, who I assumed knew about the growing concerns. We are at the "doctor smokes a cigarette while giving you your lung cancer diagnosis" point in history.

Surely you mean overestimate?

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Post by jstummbillig »

The interpretation of these studies is a bit confused to me. Most of the proposed detriments are entirely plausible, but that is about as instructive as finding out that air pollution is bad for you during the industrial revolution.

What are the effects on the opportunities of a child today, with restricted access to tech for 18 years in a highly developed country? What are the effects on a country with wide spread restrictions? To the best of my knowledge there's very little data on that (for obvious reasons), but that should maybe lead to a little more prudence when it comes to weighing the negative effects of the much simpler to run studies.

We use combustion engines, have noise, air and light pollution, move too little, sit on desks and use phones not because we enjoy harming ourselves, but because of the benefits attached. It's great that we run studies to learn more about how we are effected. But reasonable consequences, less clear.

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