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School smartphone ban results in better sleep and improved mood: study

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Post by ajoseps »

andrei_says_ wrote: post #119

I bought something called brick which lets me lock some apps with a Bluetooth app. I have to walk to a different room and touch my phone to the little cube magneted to my fridge in order to unlock them. Just this extra friction has halved my screen time. No phone in bed no phone while I’m working and no phone on weekends while I’m bored. Instant improvement in mental clarity and quality of life.

I've also been using this and I think it's a great product. It's exactly as you describe it, just some extra friction makes a huge difference. I've even bought some for friends

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Post by DaSHacka »

ubj wrote: post #64
zdragnar wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As an American, I'm at a loss trying to figure out when phones started being allowed in school. Back in my day, all electronics had to stay in your locker except your calculator, including pagers, personal organizers and for the very few kids who were wealthy enough to have one, phones as well. This would be about the time that Motorola and Nokia were selling giant bricks that they called phones. Edit: and no, school…

Also as an American, my experience was that the majority of high school students didn't care about the rules on phones. I attended high school when Motorola Razr flip phones were the hot new technology, and kids used them in class all time. People learned how to do T9 texts without looking so they could slip their hand into a backpack or pocket during class. There were even ringtones high pitched enough that adults t…

> But there have to be more effective ways to reduce their use among students rather than simply banning them.

Arguably those have all been tried, and don't work.

I think it's not hard to imagine why algebra may be less captivating than a constant short-form-video dopamine stream for an adolecent.

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Post by LoganDark »

warner25 wrote: post #140
andai wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did a project once where I put my phone away before bed (switched off and in another room) and kept it off for the first few hours of the day, along with my wifi router. I usually got so much done during that time that I'd prefer to keep them off for a few more hours, even after I was "allowed" to turn them back on.

> along with my wifi router I'm all about eliminating phones, but I'm curious to know what you accomplished for several hours without network connectivity in general. Whether I've been working from home or in an office, a network outage basically meant taking the rest of the day off because nothing could actually get done.

> I'm curious to know what you accomplished for several hours without network connectivity in general.

Making your bed, organizing your room, taking a shower / getting a haircut, doing laundry, whatever. You know, the stuff people tend to get behind on.

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Post by geerlingguy »

warner25 wrote: post #140
andai wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did a project once where I put my phone away before bed (switched off and in another room) and kept it off for the first few hours of the day, along with my wifi router. I usually got so much done during that time that I'd prefer to keep them off for a few more hours, even after I was "allowed" to turn them back on.

> along with my wifi router I'm all about eliminating phones, but I'm curious to know what you accomplished for several hours without network connectivity in general. Whether I've been working from home or in an office, a network outage basically meant taking the rest of the day off because nothing could actually get done.

Presumably some of the other 1,000 things to be done.

On my procrastination list right now: replace bathroom faucet, replace bathroom fan, replace belt in car, clean out garage floor, dust servers in my rack, move rack to new location, decommission old server in rack, clean wood floor, clean oven, caulk around the bathtub, finish reading about 20 books I have only read halfway through... could go on and on.

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Post by Tempest1981 »

lazyasciiart wrote: post #83
bawolff wrote: post #76

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> Perhaps this could be replicated just by putting phones away at night. Sort of like how people addicted to gambling would probably save a lot of money if they had just a little more will power.

Or if they just had parents controlling them?

I read somewhere that being the only kid without smartphone access is worse (for mental health) than giving your kid a smartphone.

I.e. there needs to be consensus among parents.

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Post by warner25 »

zdragnar wrote: post #59
chollida1 wrote: post #35

In Ontario/Canada schools banned cell phones with much of any issue at all this year. My friends in the US seems shocked at the fact that kids couldn't have a phone during class hours. When I asked why their main issue was that if kids cell phones were in their lockers, how would they text their parents to say they were ok when their school had a shooting. Which just goes to show how much your environment affects you…

As an American, I'm at a loss trying to figure out when phones started being allowed in school. Back in my day, all electronics had to stay in your locker except your calculator, including pagers, personal organizers and for the very few kids who were wealthy enough to have one, phones as well. This would be about the time that Motorola and Nokia were selling giant bricks that they called phones. Edit: and no, school…

> trying to figure out when phones started being allowed in school

I was a high school senior in 2003-2004, and my dad gave me a phone to use that year, and I think most of my classmates had one too, but I don't actually remember there being any problem or policy about it. I assume that's because phones were just phones at the time, and who were you going to call during class? I don't think I even sent or received a text message until a couple years later.

By 2011, when my wife started teaching in a public high school, it was the wild west with phones. The school policy gave her the authority to take them away during class, but then she was responsible for documenting and safekeeping them, so she didn't bother despite the constant distraction as kids openly looked at them during class.

The capabilities and market penetration grew so fast that I think most schools were just caught off guard, trying in vein to implement rules after the phones were already in every kid's hand.

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Post by babyoil »

andrei_says_ wrote: post #119

I bought something called brick which lets me lock some apps with a Bluetooth app. I have to walk to a different room and touch my phone to the little cube magneted to my fridge in order to unlock them. Just this extra friction has halved my screen time. No phone in bed no phone while I’m working and no phone on weekends while I’m bored. Instant improvement in mental clarity and quality of life.

All the replies under this comment sound like shameless advertising

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Post by wyre »

andrei_says_ wrote: post #119

I bought something called brick which lets me lock some apps with a Bluetooth app. I have to walk to a different room and touch my phone to the little cube magneted to my fridge in order to unlock them. Just this extra friction has halved my screen time. No phone in bed no phone while I’m working and no phone on weekends while I’m bored. Instant improvement in mental clarity and quality of life.

What keeps you from just leaving your phone unlocked? Does the unlock expire after a certain amount of time?

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Post by s1artibartfast »

warner25 wrote: post #140
andai wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did a project once where I put my phone away before bed (switched off and in another room) and kept it off for the first few hours of the day, along with my wifi router. I usually got so much done during that time that I'd prefer to keep them off for a few more hours, even after I was "allowed" to turn them back on.

> along with my wifi router I'm all about eliminating phones, but I'm curious to know what you accomplished for several hours without network connectivity in general. Whether I've been working from home or in an office, a network outage basically meant taking the rest of the day off because nothing could actually get done.

I'm guessing this wasn't for a remote work day.

Things I need to do tomorrow include oil change on my truck, laundry, trip to the hardware store, fix the sink, and call my parents.

I don't need the Internet for any of those, and checking the news can social media when I roll out of bed won't help anything. At worst, it might derail my day.

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