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School smartphone ban results in better sleep and improved mood: study

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Post by Spivak »

boredatoms wrote: post #79
toasterlovin wrote: post #60

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I have a longstanding hunch that the whole “teenagers need more sleep” thing is greatly exaggerated and it’s just that teens just stay up too late because they’re extreme stimulation seekers. Phones have made things worse, but we’ve had TVs, etc for a long time.

Its having to get up before noon thats the true problem, they just live in a different timezone

Yep 4am—1pm was my sleep schedule when I was in high school outside of school. During school it was 1am—5am during the winter due to sports conditioning and 1am-6:00am spring/fall. That was the earliest I could push my bedtime and still fall asleep.

I used to fall asleep standing in the shower. Do not miss it in the slightest. Every day is a good day to not be in high school.

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Post by balderdash »

polygon87 wrote: post #62
toomuchtodo wrote: post #28

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Private school cohort is a minority, and those kids in the aggregate will do well because of their parents’ wealth, income, and time available. Private school teachers typically are compensated appropriately and empowered as well (as opposed to public teachers who are not). Managing expectations, but also realistic expectations. (home/virtual school two kids under 10 in our family, my observations and perspective fro…

Anecdotal but I went to a fancy NYC private school (on financial aid) and what I heard was the teachers actually got paid less than public school teachers + lacked the union protections and whatnot. But it was worth it for the nicer environment and dealing with motivated students with parental pressure behind them. Although you could make money in extra ways by networking with students for $300/hr SAT tutoring and su…

That was true, I believe though that they also didn’t have to do as much certification, but were also often better pedigreed (e.g. the math teacher may not have done a teacher prep program or been certified, but held a masters degree in math from a prestigious university)

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Post by ryandrake »

SoftTalker wrote: post #82
getnormality wrote: post #56

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Do people really think this way? In good faith? They have such a high sense of risk from school shootings that they have to organize their daily activities around that possibility, regardless of whether it may be ruining the learning environment, the entire nominal purpose of school?

When you do active shooter drills during school three or four times a year, then yes that sort of creates and reinforces a skewed perspective on the real risk. Like, what difference does it make anyway if the kid can or cannot text the parent? Not like the parent can alter the situation in any way.

> Like, what difference does it make anyway if the kid can or cannot text the parent? Not like the parent can alter the situation in any way.

Yea this is what I don’t get. How is a cell phone actually going to help when there’s a school shooter? I guess you can throw the phone at his head. There’s pretty much no reason a kid needs a phone in school. If the parent needs to get in touch with him they can call the office like in the 70s, 80s, 90s, and 2000s.

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Post by bnj »

paulddraper wrote: post #93
rrr_oh_man wrote: post #67

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Fires, floods, earthquakes, tornadoes do not happen several times a week in the US, unlike mass shootings.

Are you talking about at schools or generally? Both happen several times per week, neither happen several times per week at schools.

This source [0] says 81 school shootings in the US as of 12/6/24, so while not quite several times per week on average, it's within the margin of error.

[0]: https://www.cnn.com/us/school-shootings-fast-facts-dg/index....

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Post by [deleted] »

gregwebs wrote: post #51

> challenged a group of Year 8 pupils to give up their smartphones completely for 21 days. It was not a ban during school. It was complete phone abstinence. The result was that the kids got an entire additional hour of sleep! Perhaps this could be replicated just by putting phones away at night.

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Post by bdangubic »

ryandrake wrote: post #103
SoftTalker wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you do active shooter drills during school three or four times a year, then yes that sort of creates and reinforces a skewed perspective on the real risk. Like, what difference does it make anyway if the kid can or cannot text the parent? Not like the parent can alter the situation in any way.

> Like, what difference does it make anyway if the kid can or cannot text the parent? Not like the parent can alter the situation in any way. Yea this is what I don’t get. How is a cell phone actually going to help when there’s a school shooter? I guess you can throw the phone at his head. There’s pretty much no reason a kid needs a phone in school. If the parent needs to get in touch with him they can call the offic…

they have phones in closets where kids are hiding parents can call to make sure their child is still breathing?!

I am 10000% anti-phones in schools but this is silly argument to make. every parent of a child in America worries every day something may happen and when it does time it takes to reach your kid will be the longest time no parent should have to live through

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Post by _yb2s »

caseyy wrote: post #57

I threw away my smartphone 4-ish months ago, and I have 50% more motivation, 50% more headspace to focus on things, and 50% better moods most days. The attention economy, especially in social media, is a plague. It wasn't always this way. I did digital detoxes every few years for about two decades. For most of that time, there were always subtle positive impacts of switching off. But nowadays, the positive effects ar…

I really want to do this but there are so many things I need to do that now require a phone- key apps to access doors, concert tickets, etc. are no longer offering a non smartphone alternative.

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Post by [deleted] »

gregwebs wrote: post #51

> challenged a group of Year 8 pupils to give up their smartphones completely for 21 days. It was not a ban during school. It was complete phone abstinence. The result was that the kids got an entire additional hour of sleep! Perhaps this could be replicated just by putting phones away at night.

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Post by [deleted] »

gregwebs wrote: post #51

> challenged a group of Year 8 pupils to give up their smartphones completely for 21 days. It was not a ban during school. It was complete phone abstinence. The result was that the kids got an entire additional hour of sleep! Perhaps this could be replicated just by putting phones away at night.

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