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School smartphone ban results in better sleep and improved mood: study

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Re: School smartphone ban results in better sleep and improved mood: study

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Forcing every adult to exercise 30 minutes a day would probably also have positive health outcomes. But would that be a good enough reason to introduce such a policy?

It's been a thing in Japan off and on for a few decades at least resulting in fewer sick days. [1] I could see commercial gym's being upset if this were implemented. In the US and EU it would probably have to be voluntary at first with really good incentives to get people into it and would probably have to remain voluntary for one or two generations.

I think a harder challenge would be to get rid of all the bad foods and snacks. Facebook might be a good place to test removing bad foods given how many people live there and never leave. I can not even begin to imagine the incentives that would be required for people to adopt it.

[1] - https://www.trtworld.com/life/japanese-companies-introduce-e...

Re: School smartphone ban results in better sleep and improved mood: study

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Forcing every adult to exercise 30 minutes a day would probably also have positive health outcomes. But would that be a good enough reason to introduce such a policy?

In my family, absolutely.

In my workplace, they pay you $$ for submitting step counter data, etc.

In my church, the run club that encourages this has been great.

At my country club, the “challenges” they release every month similarly have been great and the vast majority of the community participates in them competitively.

Do you mean federal policy (for some odd reason)?

Re: School smartphone ban results in better sleep and improved mood: study

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I feel like giving teachers and schools more freedoms to implement these things would be a great overall effect. We've seen a large reduction of what teachers are able to do in the last few decades because the school districts have continuously pushed bad policies to protect them against liability and extra work. My parents were both in the school system and every year they would get more rules to protect the distric…

An important component is solving parent entitlement as well. They are stakeholders, not customers.

(~1600 school districts across 24 states in the US are on 4 day weeks to attempt to retain teachers)

Re: School smartphone ban results in better sleep and improved mood: study

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post #9

Forcing every adult to exercise 30 minutes a day would probably also have positive health outcomes. But would that be a good enough reason to introduce such a policy?

Funnily there are some Japanese and Chinese companies forcing employees to do aerobic in the morning

Re: School smartphone ban results in better sleep and improved mood: study

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post #15

I feel like giving teachers and schools more freedoms to implement these things would be a great overall effect. We've seen a large reduction of what teachers are able to do in the last few decades because the school districts have continuously pushed bad policies to protect them against liability and extra work. My parents were both in the school system and every year they would get more rules to protect the distric…

An important component is solving parent entitlement as well. They are stakeholders, not customers. (~1600 school districts across 24 states in the US are on 4 day weeks to attempt to retain teachers)

> An important component is solving parent entitlement as well. They are stakeholders, not customers.

Only in public schools. At private schools, they are customers, and paradoxically the concomitant “entitlement” is not a bug, but a feature

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

An important component is solving parent entitlement as well. They are stakeholders, not customers. (~1600 school districts across 24 states in the US are on 4 day weeks to attempt to retain teachers)

> An important component is solving parent entitlement as well. They are stakeholders, not customers. Only in public schools. At private schools, they are customers, and paradoxically the concomitant “entitlement” is not a bug, but a feature

Private school cohort is a minority, and those kids in the aggregate will do well because of their parents’ wealth, income, and time available. Private school teachers typically are compensated appropriately and empowered as well (as opposed to public teachers who are not). Managing expectations, but also realistic expectations.

(home/virtual school two kids under 10 in our family, my observations and perspective from interacting with both public and private schools and the parents there, ymmv)

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Forcing every adult to exercise 30 minutes a day would probably also have positive health outcomes. But would that be a good enough reason to introduce such a policy?

Typical hn comment. Spin a good effect as no different than coming from another cause and then argue how it should not be made into a rule. False equivalence.

Re: School smartphone ban results in better sleep and improved mood: study

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post #9

Forcing every adult to exercise 30 minutes a day would probably also have positive health outcomes. But would that be a good enough reason to introduce such a policy?

It's been a thing in Japan off and on for a few decades at least resulting in fewer sick days. [1] I could see commercial gym's being upset if this were implemented. In the US and EU it would probably have to be voluntary at first with really good incentives to get people into it and would probably have to remain voluntary for one or two generations. I think a harder challenge would be to get rid of all the bad foods…

> In the US and EU it would probably have to be voluntary at first with really good incentives to get people into it and would probably have to remain voluntary for one or two generations.

Health insurance companies already offer gym reimbursements. But that doesn't matter if you have a bad diet and bad sleep and spend too much time working or commuting, and don't feel well enough to benefit from a gym membership.

Heck, there's literally a free gym in the office building where I work, but few people use it because they are busy working during the work day.

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