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macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Re: macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Post by wiredfool »

kstenerud wrote: post #145
submeta wrote: post #100

This is bad. - Just recently I broke my system badly. So I decided to erase my system and re-setup from time machine. After several unsuccessful attemts I realized that my Time Machine backup (1.45 tb) exceeded my ssd capacity (1 tb). I did research, and learned not to prune my Time Machine backups. As that may corrupt it. So after several days and failed attempts to restore from time machine and after some research…

I've really been noticing how Apple software quality has been on a slow decline since Snow Leopard. I look at some of their older source code and it's a joy to read! Nowadays, my daily travails with restarting Xcode multiple times a day to work around bugs (package blahblah is not available) have really worn thin (I mean, Xcode has always had problems, but not THIS bad). Add to that the fact that the "system data" on…

The system data apparently contains the Time Machine backups that haven’t been flushed to your external backup, including folders that are set to be ignored.

I discovered this while trying to restore a docker vm image that was maybe ignored, while not having enough space on the drive to restore it back, because deleted versions still take up space in the system data, even when the trash is emptied.

Re: macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Post by wruza »

mjx0 wrote: post #90
wruza wrote: post #75

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I had it for a while. Then systemd came and everything changed. Can’t just grep logs and won’t bother learning how to handle that “journal”. Some programs don’t write logs at all, they just crash with an indicator in a systray that something crashed (the most useful info in the world, /s). Linux was being made by hackers who know how to debug things, not anymore. Now it’s new kids raised on rainbow unicorn nonsense.…

Here's the command it sounds like you're looking for: `journalctl --grep="search string"` You can limit it by time period like this: `journalctl --since=-6h --grep="search string"` Note that there's a separate user journal (such as for things that show up with an indication in the systray), accessible like this when in a shell as that user: `journalctl --user --since=-6h --grep="search string"` Also, if you really wa…

Thanks, but today I avoid troubleshooting it, I just accept the roadblocks and escape to my windows+msys2 installation as soon as possible. I find this combination a better gnu-based system and better upside / downside balance, which is all I need on desktop. Even logs usually get written to text files cause windows system logs are rarely used by regular apps and unixy services.

I’m not a gnu vs linux pedant, but gnu never let me down like that, and linux is really just an implementation detail underneath that I’m free to replace without compromising key functionality.

Re: macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Post by noprocrasted »

inetknght wrote: post #77
Reason077 wrote: post #52

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It’s very easy on iOS to make a backup of your phone including all apps, settings, and data. Either to the cloud to locally to your own storage. What am I missing?

> to the cloud to locally Requires payment for backup of any meaningful size. > locally to your own storage I don't own a mac. I own Linux. How do I backup iOS to my device? How do I restore it?

> I own Linux

Does idevicebackup/idevicerestore not work anymore?

But agreed, there's no technical reason why the phone can't just accept normal USB-connected storage and store a file in there (in whatever proprietary/encrypted format it wants, but at least the _storage_ is standards-compliant).

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Post by radiospiel »

saagarjha wrote: post #94
sam1r wrote: post #12

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A new service that quite literally does not work right now because Apple broke the APIs they need?

More of a tool that exists for 15 years or more, and is an important tool for some of us. When my mac broke down in, hmm, maybe 2010-ish, my superduper-created bootable clone allowed me to instantly continue my work on a freshly bought mac (just boot from the clone). No Apple utilities give you that.

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Post by Jnr »

gvurrdon wrote: post #265
Jnr wrote: post #190

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And here I am running Linux on M1 Macbook. Graphical interface is superior, native docker support is superior, development experience is superior, backups for sure are superior than Time Machine. For work purposes online office on the web is sufficient. It is not for everyone (like photographers), but for software developers it works very nicely.

May I ask what distro you're using, and when there's any good documentation around for the installation procedure?

I'm an Arch guy, but for the M1 I am using the official Asahi Linux distro which is based on Fedora. Documentation and information about compatibility can be found on their site: https://asahilinux.org/

I previously used the Arch based Asahi distro when it was official, but Arch on ARM is a 3rd party project and it was not very well maintained and lacked some packages, so they switched. Fedora could also be considered more stable and better supported. But there are Ubuntu, Debian versions for Asahi if you prefer those.

Re: macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Post by jamwil »

foderking wrote: post #219
hmottestad wrote: post #117

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Sounds a bit too simplistic. Apple is about the only company that allows you to run any decently sized LLMs on a laptop. They also have all day battery life, amazing single-threaded performance and great multicore performance. And they didn’t stop there, they also threw in a truly fantastic display and speakers that are so far ahead of any competitors that I wonder what kind of magic they have that no other laptop br…

idk about the LLM part, but the rest of this is not true. there's multiple laptops that compete or even beat MacBooks in display, battery life, performance etc. and the MacBook displays have really slow response times

I’d be curious to see an example.

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Post by philistine »

echelon wrote: post #85
a2tech wrote: post #5

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This is from the SuperDuper backup folks. SuperDuper is a tool that you can use to make bootable backups of your macOS system. Apple took away the ability for 3rd party tools to manipulate the OS and copy it to another partition/drive and took it upon themselves to provide that functionality via a utility. That utility is apparently non-functional in 15.2. So that breaks SuperDuper's ability to make a nice, clean, bo…

> took it upon themselves to provide that functionality via a utility. That utility is apparently non-functional in 15.2. Apple turning our devices into jail cells. These tech titans need to be regulated. We should be able to install whatever we want on Mac, iPhone, and Android. To be able to back up whatever we want, install from web, not be forced to use app stores, not be forced to sync with the cloud, and not be…

There is a technical reason that greatly benefits the user. The ability to guarantee the OS is unchanged, and to restore to factory defaults like on an iPhone are great benefits.

Regulations on our OSes means we end up with Microsoft refusing to limit access to the kernel not to displease the EU, which led to the Crowdstrike outage.

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Post by philistine »

pjmlp wrote: post #210
SXX wrote: post #201

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> It is as easy as having Windows and XBox APIs that Proton isn't able to easily replicate, while requiring them for Windows Store and XBox Game Pass. This will do more damage to Microsoft's position rather than Valve. They already lost current generation of console war and weakening their positions further by breaking compatability would't do them any good. Also Apple eating into their laptop market share by ARM off…

Apple has 10% of worldwide desktop market, and no presence on servers and cloud. They aren't eating anyone's lunch, not even on mobile, where Android rules world wide. Microsoft also owns the PC, besides XBox, Valve is a guest and should not forget how many studios are owned by Microsoft. And with a Microsoft friendly US administration, maybe even Valve-after-Gabe can become part of Microsoft.

Apple owns 10% of the market, but around 90% of all computers above 1000$. They make around 7.5 billions in Mac revenue per quarter, which makes them the most profitable computer company.

Apple controls the high margin market. That has royally screwed Intel, which explains in part the woes its in right now; it lost the only high margin computer maker.

Re: macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Post by [deleted] »

lxgr wrote: post #2

What is this about? I seem to be missing a lot of context. > Apple broke the replicator. What's the replicator? > What this means is this: until Apple fixes the bug, you'll have to use "Backup - all files" with "Smart Update" to copy everything but the OS. Use that where? Is that an option in some macOS tool?

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