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macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Re: macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Post by pseingatl »

not_a_shill wrote: post #199
deaddodo wrote: post #115

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This isn't me trying to convince you to use Linux, but the listed reasons (other than LLM testing) aren't real deterrents (and there are plenty that exist for many people, no use pretending not): > Acorn GIMP (or Glimpse, if you want a more modern UI) or Krita can definitely do pretty much anything Acorn can. > Keyboard Maestro GNOME and KDE have been able to do this out of the box from pretty much the beginning. The…

Libreoffice isn't the alternative, office on web is. And even that is still gimped compared to Windows Excel. (Which is the true killer app for professional use of Windows in general)

Try Softmaker Office for Linux.

Re: macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Post by pas »

keyle wrote: post #208

No one really complained with 15.1 and macOS completely blocking software that is "untrusted". You know the "move to bin" popup, which you used to unblock in the past by cmd+clicking the binary, or later via the settings menu for privacy & security (insane in its own right!) Since 15.1, you're done and dusted. Unsigned/untrusted binaries simply will not run on macOS, regardless of how much you trust them to be. Thank…

moving to Asahi Linux seems like an option eventually

Re: macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Post by beretguy »

talldayo wrote: post #135
echelon wrote: post #85

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> took it upon themselves to provide that functionality via a utility. That utility is apparently non-functional in 15.2. Apple turning our devices into jail cells. These tech titans need to be regulated. We should be able to install whatever we want on Mac, iPhone, and Android. To be able to back up whatever we want, install from web, not be forced to use app stores, not be forced to sync with the cloud, and not be…

> Apple turning our devices into jail cells. > These tech titans need to be regulated. You say this as though anyone buying a Macbook in the past decade reserves the right to be surprised. New Trump administration isn't going to budge on this - he's actually rather upset at the EU for how they've been treating his good friend Tim Apple. Chances are, he likes this lockdown and wants Americans to accept it. If you're a…

> If you're an American owner of Apple hardware, you've involuntarily signed yourself up for the Apple Isolationist program.

I use iPhone because I try not to use any Google products. I didn't sign up for no nothing, I have no other choice.

Re: macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Post by hmottestad »

adrian_b wrote: post #181
rolisz wrote: post #152

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Please, do tell me where else can I run 32b models locally without quantization

If you do not care about speed, pretty much everywhere. On any other computers with integrated GPU you can have more memory than on Apple computers, where memory is abnormally expensive. The main advantage of the current Apple computers is a wider interface with memory, which provides a better memory throughput for their integrated GPUs. In 2025 it is expected that others will catch up with Apple even from this point…

Let's hope that AMD Strix Halo will allow for 128 GB of VRAM when it releases next year. That's what Apple has to offer at the moment.

> On any other computers with integrated GPU you can have more memory than on Apple computers, where memory is abnormally expensive.

Are there any laptops that support 256 GB of RAM that cost less than a fully speced out Macbook Pro?

Re: macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Post by lloeki »

sinfulprogeny wrote: post #131
deaddodo wrote: post #115

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This isn't me trying to convince you to use Linux, but the listed reasons (other than LLM testing) aren't real deterrents (and there are plenty that exist for many people, no use pretending not): > Acorn GIMP (or Glimpse, if you want a more modern UI) or Krita can definitely do pretty much anything Acorn can. > Keyboard Maestro GNOME and KDE have been able to do this out of the box from pretty much the beginning. The…

> GIMP (or Glimpse, if you want a more modern UI) or Krita can definitely do pretty much anything Acorn can. I'm fairly certain that anyone who recommends GIMP hasn't really used GIMP.

> anyone who recommends GIMP hasn't really used GIMP.

Or they only ever used GIMP but never Acorn/Pixelmator/PS and thus don't understand how they run circles around GIMP.

Same about OmniGraffle vs the supposed horde of Linux diagramming tools.

Or Logic (or even GarageBand) vs Ardour or - deity forbid - Audacity (which is at best a glorified wav editor, but a far cry from a DAW)

They're just not in the same league.

Re: macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Post by hmottestad »

foderking wrote: post #219
hmottestad wrote: post #117

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Sounds a bit too simplistic. Apple is about the only company that allows you to run any decently sized LLMs on a laptop. They also have all day battery life, amazing single-threaded performance and great multicore performance. And they didn’t stop there, they also threw in a truly fantastic display and speakers that are so far ahead of any competitors that I wonder what kind of magic they have that no other laptop br…

idk about the LLM part, but the rest of this is not true. there's multiple laptops that compete or even beat MacBooks in display, battery life, performance etc. and the MacBook displays have really slow response times

I guess we all have different requirements in a screen. I don't care so much about response time. For me it's more important that the screen can do 1000 nits continuously, support 120 hz and is close enough to 4K that I can't see the pixels.

Although I can't find a windows laptop that can beat the M4 Max in single threaded or multi threaded. Got any tips for any laptops that can compete with the M4 Max?

Re: macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Post by hmottestad »

submeta wrote: post #133
hmottestad wrote: post #119

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Sounds like an edge case that Microsoft didn’t think of when they developed OneDrive on Mac. You should contact them and let them know that they should exclude OneDrive from Time Machine backups automatically unless it’s configured to download everything. You can very easily exclude folders from Time Machine backups yourself.

My point was about being able to boot from ssd. Not about whom to blame re Time Machine backup.

Ahh, I didn't see that you were the original commenter.

Re: macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Post by InsideOutSanta »

4gotunameagain wrote: post #143
sinfulprogeny wrote: post #131

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> GIMP (or Glimpse, if you want a more modern UI) or Krita can definitely do pretty much anything Acorn can. I'm fairly certain that anyone who recommends GIMP hasn't really used GIMP.

I have been using gimp for almost a decade now. Granted, I am not a professional in that field, but why would I not recommend it ? It does everything I want to, and more.

>why would I not recommend it ?

You're free to recommend it, but if you tell somebody coming from a Mac that GIMP is an alterantive to tools like like Affinity Photo, Pixelmator, Acorn, or even Photoshop, you're doing them a disservice, because it's not.

I'm glad that GIMP works for you. That's good. And technically, it probably does a lot (or even everthing) that most people do in other applications. And maybe you can even argue that it doesn't do those things worse, it just does them differently.

But the reality is that if you're used to a tool like Acorn on the Mac, which puts a huge priority on providing a good, efficient user experience, you're just never going to switch to GIMP.

Same applies to a tool like OmniGraffle. I've looked everywhere, there's nothing like OmniGraffle on Linux. By that, I don't mean that there aren't any tools that allow you to create diagrams and mockups, I mean there aren't any tools that are as nice, simple, and quick to use as OmniGraffle.

Re: macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Post by hmottestad »

submeta wrote: post #134
hmottestad wrote: post #124

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When I last restored from Time Machine it allowed me to select which folders I wanted to restore. Then I could just restore the most important bits and leave anything big behind on the backup drive to restore manually later. https://support.apple.com/en-us/102551

I only was offered to select top level folders. Nothing below them.

Did you try to reinstall the mac and use migration assistant to restore from the Time Machine backup?
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