I would love to know the identity of their GC, the team that does it all
Elon Musk wanted an OpenAI for-profit
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Re: Elon Musk wanted an OpenAI for-profit
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Don’t pay much particular attention to AI but I’m not seeing the knock on him saying “no.” What human in the world could be trusted with AI? Only delusional people could say yes to that question.
a smartphone can be used to guide an ICBM. what human in the would could be trusted with it?
Most humans are frequently harming themselves (and sometimes harming others) with their smartphones, so...
Re: Elon Musk wanted an OpenAI for-profit
#503> September 2017: We rejected Elon's terms because giving him unilateral control of OpenAI and its technology would be contrary to the mission
Why the rejection in 2017 when in 2024 the company moved towards a similar goal?
Re: Elon Musk wanted an OpenAI for-profit
#504I guess it's not news but it is pretty wild to see the level of millenarianism espoused by all of these guys. The board of OpenAI is supposedly going to "determine the fate of the world", robotics to be "completely solved" by 2020, the goal of OpenAI is to "avoid an AGI dictatorship". Is nobody in these very rich guys' spheres pushing back on their thought process? So far we are multiple years in with much investment…
> I guess it's not news but it is pretty wild to see the level of millenarianism espoused by all of these guys. Unprecedented change has already happened with LLMs. So this is expected. > So far we are multiple years in with much investment and little return ...because it's expensive to build what they're building.
What unprecedented change? No changes induced by LLMs are 'novel'. We've had much larger layoffs due to smaller technological improvements, for example. Productivity hasn't gone up nearly as much (a few percent?) as it did with electrification. What metric are you specifically thinking of?
Re: Elon Musk wanted an OpenAI for-profit
#505Earlier quoted context omitted.
> OpenAI is the fastest growing startup by revenue, ever. No it's not. Facebook hit $2B in Revenue in late 2010 - early 2011, ~5 years after its founding. https://dazeinfo.com/2018/11/14/facebook-revenue-and-net-inc...
Finding one example of him being wrong still kinda supports his point, don't you think?
No, it makes me think there are more. ", ever." Suggests you actually know the space of things you're talking about.
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The fact that owning Twitter was worth half a Mars colony to him should give you an idea of how seriously he's taking this whole thing. It's up there next to "Full Self Driving" and "$25,000 EV" in the Big Jar of Promises Used To Raise Capital and Nothing Else.
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Wake me up when it stops having hard time recognizing when it’s raining to turn on the wipers reliably.
Then we can talk about FSD
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#508Maybe a weird question, but how does a capitalist economy work where AGI-performed-labor is categorically less expensive than human-performed labor? Do most people who labor for wages just go unemployed, and then bankrupt, and then die?
Comparative advantage. Even if AGI is better at absolutely all work the amount of work it is capable of doing is finite. So AGI will end up mostly being used for the highest value, most differentiated work it’s capable of, and it will “trade” with humans for work where humans have a lower opportunity cost, even if it would technically be better at those tasks too. Basically the same dynamic that you see in e.g. custo…
I think you assume that there will only be one model. However, as we can see today, there can also be a variety of prices/qualities. Why wouldn't the tier 1 support people be also replaced, but by cheaper models?
Re: Elon Musk wanted an OpenAI for-profit
#509I guess it's not news but it is pretty wild to see the level of millenarianism espoused by all of these guys. The board of OpenAI is supposedly going to "determine the fate of the world", robotics to be "completely solved" by 2020, the goal of OpenAI is to "avoid an AGI dictatorship". Is nobody in these very rich guys' spheres pushing back on their thought process? So far we are multiple years in with much investment…
The goal to "avoid an AGI dictatorship" may sound silly but it doesn't seem very far fetched that someone like Putin would replace themselves with a Putinbot which could then scheme to take over the world with their nukes much like now. One good thing about human dictators is at least they die eventually.
It sounds like they were worrying about Demis Hassabis rather than Putin.
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Doing what exactly? What industry could Mars possibly support profitably?
Solar powered non-urgent batch compute. Mars has a shitton of land to build on and no people whining about you cutting down some rainforest or something to make room for your projects.
Space is a lot bigger and a lot nearer