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Mysterious New Jersey drone sightings prompt call for 'state of emergency'

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At least 6 out of 10 images in the linked article are clearly commercial aircraft.

And those other 4 out of 10 are very clearly not commercial airlines. I live in NJ was very skeptical of this at first, but after seeing the same patterns 5 nights in a row for aircrafts not going towards Newark, I really have a hard time believing it is simply airlines.

why hasn’t someone got decent pictures to back this up after five nights?

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NJ has some of the leading research centers for the US military, our new president's second estate, and critical infrastructure for telecommunications. Reportedly drones were flying close to all of these spots. I would fully expect our military to be monitoring these parts of the country for drone-sized objects given how effective they have been in waging our wars the past 20 years. So yeah, it's a massive intelligen…

20 years lol Off by a factor of 2.5x, but your expectation is reasonable --so is having a Defense Secretary that tells his staff when he's checking into the hospital for a serious medical condition and an airspace that doesn't allow balloons to get within range of broadcasting firmware updates to ESP32s. https://www.app.com/story/news/local/new-jersey/2024/12/11/d...

> Abichandani has no idea as of now whether the drones over New Jersey are swarming drones.

Then this article goes on to speculate about scary things.

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From what little I've seen on this, it kind of feels like the issue with Priuses acceleration out of control like 15 years ago. It was a huge scandal that lead to multiple Toyota recalls and even a lawsuit settlement and in the end, it seems like it was basically human error. One person messed up and crashed their Prius claiming the accelerator got stuck and it got picked up by the news. That story then primed other…

That’s known as mass psychogenic illness, and history is full of examples. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_psychogenic_illness

Otherwise known as gaslighting

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> there have been drone sightings near sensitive military sites recently How near is "near"? There's an awful lot of sensitive military sites in the US.

New Jersey is essentially one big sensitive site. Between Picatinny Arsenal, Joint Base McGuire-Dix, NWS Earle, and all the other smaller sites, you’re about 15 miles away from any one site and if you’re near civilization you’re much closer. Add in other sensitive sites like power stations and reservoirs, and the entire state is “sensitive”. This smacks hard of manipulation and agitation. 99% of the sitings shared wi…

Lots of what is shared is airplanes, but there have been official sources confirming drone sightings too. I haven't seen a drone yet myself tho.

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There was an article 1-2 days ago saying that one was in the area of a LifeFlight helicopter, preventing the safe operation of that medical transport. There has been a threat articulated. It may not be a true report and the response may not be proportional/appropriate to the threat, but to say there is zero threat is wrong. Also, reportedly these are the size of SUVs. I don’t believe you need that much of an investme…

Things like that happen all the time. https://www.faa.gov/uas/resources/public_records/uas_sightin... Keep in mind most of this stuff never gets reported.

Yet this incident has happened several days in short succession in highly populated states/areas, and police have made public statements about this particular offender multiple times.

Once it gets some media traction / popular mindshare, it’s more likely to get policy makers to try and do something, even if that is a “limited state of emergency”.

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"large drones" How large is "large"? Some of the articles are claiming "SUV sized" drones, but their photos are either of commercial aircraft, or of something that looks to be a DJI Phantom 4, or something much like it. Have you managed to capture any videos of images of these large, low flying, slow moving drones?

it’s amazing how so many people have seen these truck sized drones but they’ve all somehow failed to get pictures. i can go outside right now in the dark with this phone i’m typing on and get a solid picture of stuff but somehow they keep showing us pictures that look like 1940s era ufo photo blur.

No you can't - try it. Take a picture of the moon.

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I mean there were 12 drones following a Coast Guard lifeboat. Doubt the Coastguard crew mass hysteria'd themselves into thinking 12 nearby 737s were following their boat (unless they just raided some Colombian drug submarine prior to coming into port). https://apnews.com/article/fbi-drones-new-jersey-a978470fa3b... And the official government response is super odd. Police were following a drone (that is totally safe…

> And the official government response is super odd. Police were following a drone (that is totally safe we are told) then called the helicopter back because he felt unsafe. But the drones are safe (except if you are a police helicopter?).

A misguided drone flying into a helicopter does seem unsafe. Just because something isn’t a threat to a ground pedestrian does not mean it can’t be a threat to a whirlybird.

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And those other 4 out of 10 are very clearly not commercial airlines. I live in NJ was very skeptical of this at first, but after seeing the same patterns 5 nights in a row for aircrafts not going towards Newark, I really have a hard time believing it is simply airlines.

why hasn’t someone got decent pictures to back this up after five nights?

The drones only operate at night and it's hard taking good pictures at night with phones (or even nice cameras) - try to take a picture of the moon, which isn't moving, is brighter, etc.. you can tell it's the moon but it's a lot quality picture.

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> My personal feeling is if it was enemy drones, our military would have already taken them down I think you overestimate a few things here… the military isn’t constantly monitoring all airspace across the country for drone-sized objects and shooting things down if they don’t recognize them. Perhaps they should be as we enter this brave new world of drone-everything, but they don’t right now.

The military isn’t allowed to shoot down drones in the US. There was a WSJ story last month about drones flying over Langley for 2 weeks. All the general could do is stand on the roof and watch

Yeah they can only shoot down unidentified weather balloons.
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