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Mysterious New Jersey drone sightings prompt call for 'state of emergency'

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The photos I've seen posted look very obviously like commercial airliners and helicopters with their navigation lights on. You can even make out the American Airlines livery on the tail! https://www.app.com/story/news/local/new-jersey/2024/12/11/d...

I live in NJ. I've seen these drones. They are not commercial airliners or helicopters. They are loud, fly low and slow, and make abrupt turns unlike any planes I've seen. Their lights are also very different from other aircraft. I can see how it's tempting to chalk this up to hysteria, but they are absolutely large drones of some kind.

What sort of noise do they make? Do they sound like normal drones?

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#143

The US military can track and engage ICBMs moving at 15k MPH but can't identity drones above residential neighborhoods in the continental US? They really do believe we're stupid.

Quadcopters occupy the same flight regime as most clutter does: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clutter_(radar)

Truth is, a Patriot system would probably also miss something like this unless it had special SHORAD or CIWS defenses alongside it. A lot of these drones are going to be invisible to conventional radar if they want to be.

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Oh, here, I'll make you feel better. Go check sub of the alien/ufo subreddits. Literally you'll see comments that amount to "my life sucks and is boring, this would be exciting even if bad".

It's uh, a bit maddening and a bit sad.

Re: Mysterious New Jersey drone sightings prompt call for 'state of emergency'

#146
I wish we as people could have meaningful conversations on the internet.

To clarify some common logical issues I see spread across dozens of responses in this thread:

Drones != Quadcopters

Drones COULD use a housing to mimics common aircraft or helicopters.

The military and FBI do not commonly monitor ALL airspace at all times beyond air-traffic radar.

The government is not a hive-mind and individuals only know what they know despite the fact the are asked to make statements.

Re: Mysterious New Jersey drone sightings prompt call for 'state of emergency'

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The photos I've seen posted look very obviously like commercial airliners and helicopters with their navigation lights on. You can even make out the American Airlines livery on the tail! https://www.app.com/story/news/local/new-jersey/2024/12/11/d...

I live in NJ. I've seen these drones. They are not commercial airliners or helicopters. They are loud, fly low and slow, and make abrupt turns unlike any planes I've seen. Their lights are also very different from other aircraft. I can see how it's tempting to chalk this up to hysteria, but they are absolutely large drones of some kind.

Nah dude, all of these people in the comments thread who live in northern California and have no knowledge of drones beyond playing with a buddy's DJI one time at a cookout are insisting it's your imagination, and that you're gripped by a mass hysteria.

Who are you gonna believe? Them, or your lying eyes?

Re: Mysterious New Jersey drone sightings prompt call for 'state of emergency'

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The photos I've seen posted look very obviously like commercial airliners and helicopters with their navigation lights on. You can even make out the American Airlines livery on the tail! https://www.app.com/story/news/local/new-jersey/2024/12/11/d...

From what little I've seen on this, it kind of feels like the issue with Priuses acceleration out of control like 15 years ago. It was a huge scandal that lead to multiple Toyota recalls and even a lawsuit settlement and in the end, it seems like it was basically human error. One person messed up and crashed their Prius claiming the accelerator got stuck and it got picked up by the news. That story then primed other…

That’s known as mass psychogenic illness, and history is full of examples.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_psychogenic_illness

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

And those other 4 out of 10 are very clearly not commercial airlines. I live in NJ was very skeptical of this at first, but after seeing the same patterns 5 nights in a row for aircrafts not going towards Newark, I really have a hard time believing it is simply airlines.

Sure, I’m not saying there’s nothing, but there’s clearly some component of hysteria.

Reminds me of the hysteria we had about drones shutting down an airport in the UK, with loads of reported sightings yet no evidence. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gatwick_Airport_drone_incident

Re: Mysterious New Jersey drone sightings prompt call for 'state of emergency'

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The photos I've seen posted look very obviously like commercial airliners and helicopters with their navigation lights on. You can even make out the American Airlines livery on the tail! https://www.app.com/story/news/local/new-jersey/2024/12/11/d...

What blows my mind, is that damn near every single person seeing this has a phone that can record video, and the best we can do is grainy night pictures.

I mean fucking hell we've got people in this thread saying "yeah but they don't move like that" ,which fine, cool, and yet somehow the only stuff circulating is pictures?

This whole thing reeks of overreaction to something small signal boosted by filtering of bad data. Send a clear video "oh that's obviously a helicopter". Send some barely readable photo "MASSIVE DRONE SIGHTING", put it on the front page.

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