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Mysterious New Jersey drone sightings prompt call for 'state of emergency'

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Re: Mysterious New Jersey drone sightings prompt call for 'state of emergency'

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Post by Aeolun »

gradus_ad wrote: post #49
apcragg wrote: post #13

The photos I've seen posted look very obviously like commercial airliners and helicopters with their navigation lights on. You can even make out the American Airlines livery on the tail! https://www.app.com/story/news/local/new-jersey/2024/12/11/d...

I live in NJ. I've seen these drones. They are not commercial airliners or helicopters. They are loud, fly low and slow, and make abrupt turns unlike any planes I've seen. Their lights are also very different from other aircraft. I can see how it's tempting to chalk this up to hysteria, but they are absolutely large drones of some kind.

At least 6 out of 10 images in the linked article are clearly commercial aircraft.

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Post by philosopher1234 »

gradus_ad wrote: post #49
apcragg wrote: post #13

The photos I've seen posted look very obviously like commercial airliners and helicopters with their navigation lights on. You can even make out the American Airlines livery on the tail! https://www.app.com/story/news/local/new-jersey/2024/12/11/d...

I live in NJ. I've seen these drones. They are not commercial airliners or helicopters. They are loud, fly low and slow, and make abrupt turns unlike any planes I've seen. Their lights are also very different from other aircraft. I can see how it's tempting to chalk this up to hysteria, but they are absolutely large drones of some kind.

Are there any recordings to back up your story?

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Post by MisterTea »

Those floating balloon things we saw previously, the ones which were shot down, I had a thought they could be used as floating drone platforms. Like the carrier in Starcraft. The whole thing can silently float for days, the drones can awake and deploy, surveil, return, then float away silently. It could then scuttle itself in the ocean where a waiting ship can salvage it.

Re: Mysterious New Jersey drone sightings prompt call for 'state of emergency'

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Post by mindslight »

KK7NIL wrote: post #9
ents wrote: post #3

Why are they not being shot down at the very least?

The FAA looks down on people shooting at flying objects they can barely recognize, as this guy learned the hard way: https://www.yahoo.com/news/retiree-shot-walmart-delivery-dro...

> DroneUp Delivery was working on mock deliveries for Walmart and had set up a delivery point outside of Mr Winn’s ... home

> The defendant stated he had past experience with drones and believed they were surveilling him

The question I'm left with after reading that article - was this test delivery point for a single trial run, or did this company choose one random location and then repeatedly send tests there over and over? If it's the latter, that seems like it should also warrant criminal charges.

Re: Mysterious New Jersey drone sightings prompt call for 'state of emergency'

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Post by Amezarak »

thephyber wrote: post #22
soared wrote: post #4

Bit concerning that no government agencies have figured out what’s going on, but hardly seems like there is a reason for a limited state of emergency given there is no known threat at all. My guess is a US company is gathering data and hasn’t admitted to do so without some type of licensing/etc

There was an article 1-2 days ago saying that one was in the area of a LifeFlight helicopter, preventing the safe operation of that medical transport. There has been a threat articulated. It may not be a true report and the response may not be proportional/appropriate to the threat, but to say there is zero threat is wrong. Also, reportedly these are the size of SUVs. I don’t believe you need that much of an investme…

Things like that happen all the time.

https://www.faa.gov/uas/resources/public_records/uas_sightin...

Keep in mind most of this stuff never gets reported.

Re: Mysterious New Jersey drone sightings prompt call for 'state of emergency'

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Post by abuani »

Aeolun wrote: post #61
gradus_ad wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I live in NJ. I've seen these drones. They are not commercial airliners or helicopters. They are loud, fly low and slow, and make abrupt turns unlike any planes I've seen. Their lights are also very different from other aircraft. I can see how it's tempting to chalk this up to hysteria, but they are absolutely large drones of some kind.

At least 6 out of 10 images in the linked article are clearly commercial aircraft.

And those other 4 out of 10 are very clearly not commercial airlines. I live in NJ was very skeptical of this at first, but after seeing the same patterns 5 nights in a row for aircrafts not going towards Newark, I really have a hard time believing it is simply airlines.

Re: Mysterious New Jersey drone sightings prompt call for 'state of emergency'

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Post by Terr_ »

plipt wrote: post #55
apcragg wrote: post #13

The photos I've seen posted look very obviously like commercial airliners and helicopters with their navigation lights on. You can even make out the American Airlines livery on the tail! https://www.app.com/story/news/local/new-jersey/2024/12/11/d...

I find the discussions on Metabunk.org helpful with news stories like this. For example here is a clip that a Fox News host recorded. Presented as a drone, but is it not clearly just an airplane filmed flying directly overhead? https://www.metabunk.org/threads/drones-over-new-jersey.1377...

Yeah, that looks pretty damn normal. I mean, what kind of Nefarious Power would send out its Secret Drones with standard wingtip lights and headlights on?

Note that in this aviation context, those headlights are more to make the plane itself more visible to everyone else, not to give extra information to its pilot(s). It's hard to make lights bright-enough that they could illuminate something in time for an in-air plane to avoid it. (E.g. a magical flying sleigh.)

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Post by [deleted] »

pygar wrote: post #16

So is Iran just going to be the default bogeyman until they drum up enough negative sentiment for a war? Iran doesn't really have any military projection. It can't even move equipment and people into countries it's close to (Syria, Iraq), let alone the US. Why would they take the risk of doing this? It's obviously bullshit.

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