way too early to say much more right now. next few weeks/months should be interesting though.
Syrian government falls in end to 50-year rule of Assad family
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#122I would love to hear what the Syrian hacker news community has to say about this. I’m reading so many comments here but not sure how many are from actual Syrians who probably have a deeper understanding and hope/fears about what comes next.
Depending on the ethnicity, religion and politics of those Syrians you’ll get wildly different views.
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#123Earlier quoted context omitted.
Assad wasn’t really a stabilizing force holding back worse players, he was a desperate despot just barely holding on to power thanks to a proxy war. Now the rest of the parties have a real chance to establishing a governing coalition. Syria has always been relatively secular and the rhetoric coming from the rebel side is in marked contrast to the usual pattern in the region. The most extremist group involved HTS has…
The vast majority of Syrian refugees are going to try their best to stay in Europe because why would they want to leave to return to devastation and ruin (aside from forced deportation).
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#124Earlier quoted context omitted.
A) in the open B) they released all prisoners now. And at least some of them were part of ISIS.
The majority of them (at the Saydenia) are political imprisoned citizens.
The point is, that no matter what they did, they are all free now.
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#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
I would love for someone to explain to me why there is a cheering section for Bashar al-Assad. I understand what Hayat Tahrir al-Sham is. I can read a Wikipedia page. HTS: not great. Got it. But why am I supposed to believe the Syrian Ba'athists are (sorry, were) a fulcrum of peace in west Asia? Someone give me the pitch. Is it really all a fiendish plot to eliminate the meal of dinner?
Given how it played in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and to a less degree Tunisia, these revolutions have all been more catastrophic than the status quo.
Us secret services seems to have won (at least Hillary's leaked emails make it seems US services got what they wanted), but since their candidate was really bad,the country split (not saying that what the French did was any better by any mean, but at least their initial candidate,pre assassination, had grassroot support.)
Still, the original Sin was French, so they're the main culprit of what happened in Lybia. Especially since it's possible that the war was started to remove witnesses of illegal campaigns fonds transferred from Gaddafi to Sarkozy, but we only have circumstancial evidence. Mostly because Gaddafi died shortly after being captured alive in the hand of french-supported rebels, his finance minister unluckily drowned himself in Vienna, and one witness retracted himself after a weird assassination attempt.
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#126What are the chances the Kurds will get their own land out of this?
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#127Much though I want to view this as good news I keep finding myself steelmanning that it's actually bad news * destabilising a region already in flames * replacing a secular evil government by.. jihadists in a loose coalition. WCGW? * Russia used port and airfields to maintain a presence in the Med and for nefarious purposes in Africa. What do they do now, to replace them because I doubt "nothing" is the answer. * doe…
I don't know that "what kind of news is it" is the right way to look at this. Things happen, without a reckoning of whether they are convenient or inconvenient to the most powerful military forces in the world. The people who just overthrew the Ba'athists are Salafists; their leader has (had?) a $10MM price on his head from the US for leading the al-Nusra front, which was (is?) al-Qaeda in Syria, and was almost a com…
Re: Syrian government falls in end to 50-year rule of Assad family
#128I would love to hear what the Syrian hacker news community has to say about this. I’m reading so many comments here but not sure how many are from actual Syrians who probably have a deeper understanding and hope/fears about what comes next.
“Actual Syrians” isn’t a thing for this — it’s like wanting to hear from ‘actual Americans’ what they thought of the US election. Depending on the ethnicity, religion and politics of those Syrians you’ll get wildly different views.
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#129Who are likely to control Syria now? Will Syria become an islamic state?
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#130Earlier quoted context omitted.
Syria wasn’t a particularly shitty place before all this began in 2013.
It was under a repressive dictatorship with crumbling infrastructure. Sure, it can always be worse, but the people deserve and are capable of so much better.
Yes, I would argue the islamic state was indeed worse. And so far I see nothing preventing them or a similar force taking hold again. I mean turkey is the moderating factor here and turkey under Erdogan has gone the authorian islamic way since a while.