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Rivian is opening its charging network to other EVs

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Re: Rivian is opening its charging network to other EVs

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Post by melodyogonna »

AtlasBarfed wrote: post #199
iknowstuff wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

50% is grossly exaggerated and kind of shows you’re in a bubble. Tesla sells in China, the world’s largest car market and by far the largest EV market, and Europe, and Australia, and Japan etc. even half of americans dont give a fuck despite some democrats claiming that. Most people dont give a fuck about the ceo’s politics except maybe in the bay area.

Such ANGER. The Internet says 50% of US buyers are identified democrats, YMMV for internet stats. That number doesn't seem stupid -- EVs are progressive, environmentalist, anti-establishment. Tesla's stock is a huge bubble. It's worth the next 10 car companies combined! Yes there's a ton of AI speculation in there, but fundamentally the company's stock is about geometric growth in sales. The most important customer t…

Is it Tesla sales that is down or a general down trend in the car market? Tesla's Model Y is still the best selling car model in the world in 2024

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Post by ulrischa »

Schiendelman wrote: post #134
ulrischa wrote: post #70

Cool feature: The Rivian R1T and R1S are equipped with a "Tank Turn" feature, allowing the vehicle to rotate 360 degrees in place by spinning the left and right wheels in opposite directions.

Could you edit your comment? This is incorrect. It was a demo, but they chose not to do it because it does so much damage to ground surface, and their vehicles are intended to be used in places like national parks where that matters a lot.

Seems like I can not edit it. Sorry

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Post by iknowstuff »

Animats wrote: post #196
iknowstuff wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

50% is grossly exaggerated and kind of shows you’re in a bubble. Tesla sells in China, the world’s largest car market and by far the largest EV market, and Europe, and Australia, and Japan etc. even half of americans dont give a fuck despite some democrats claiming that. Most people dont give a fuck about the ceo’s politics except maybe in the bay area.

Tesla's sales in China are shrinking, but for ordinary car sales reasons - the competition has cheaper cars.[1] The disaster in US automotive is that the manufacturers thought they could increase prices, and discovered that, instead, unsold cars are piling up. Tesla's oversupply can be seen from space.[2] Stellantis overdid price increases so much that the CEO was canned. The US currently has 3 million unsold new car…

Jalopnik has been peddling stories about tesla’s imminent demise due to parking lots full of unsold teslas every year since before the model 3 release lol

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Post by iknowstuff »

AtlasBarfed wrote: post #200
rootusrootus wrote: post #191

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Agreed. Tesla fans are so enamored with Elon that there isn’t really going to be anything that changes their mind. The vast majority of people I’ve talked to who said they won’t buy a Tesla because of him are not EV owners at all. Just democrats.

Once you get past the passionate technologist crowd, and there have been signs the initial buyer pool for Tesla was already stagnating a bit in 2023, who are the next natural candidates for buyers? The mass market is 1/3 right wing, 1/3 left wing, 1/3 centrist roughly. The 1/3 right wing are the pickup truck buyers. Like a rock ... Strong as I can be. The 1/3 left wing is now pretty much a no. The 1/3 centrist is pro…

Tesla is likely quite happy to install lfp/sodium megapacks.

Self driving is in fact the growth plan. You’re not paying attention if you’re calling it miraculous, which is fine, more money for investors.

Re: Rivian is opening its charging network to other EVs

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Post by iknowstuff »

AtlasBarfed wrote: post #199
iknowstuff wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

50% is grossly exaggerated and kind of shows you’re in a bubble. Tesla sells in China, the world’s largest car market and by far the largest EV market, and Europe, and Australia, and Japan etc. even half of americans dont give a fuck despite some democrats claiming that. Most people dont give a fuck about the ceo’s politics except maybe in the bay area.

Such ANGER. The Internet says 50% of US buyers are identified democrats, YMMV for internet stats. That number doesn't seem stupid -- EVs are progressive, environmentalist, anti-establishment. Tesla's stock is a huge bubble. It's worth the next 10 car companies combined! Yes there's a ton of AI speculation in there, but fundamentally the company's stock is about geometric growth in sales. The most important customer t…

Tesla is not importing to china. Its not debt ridden like the 10 other car companies, and has a growth outlook far beyond them via FSD and renewables. They produce 1.5M cars a year, Hertz is a blip. FSD13 is looking fantastic.

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Post by jamiek88 »

boredatoms wrote: post #201
Spooky23 wrote: post #194

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You’re right! Pay phones used to actually make money and get maintained by the phone company! A lot of money. And a lot of regulation. Outside of the hood, they started reducing the maintenance expenses in the mid 90s when receiving calls was pretty much banned. Chargers are worse than ATMs, they are yet another real estate tax scheme. The actual function of charging is often not a serious consideration.

Receiving calls? Perhaps Im too young, what was the use case for that?

For me it was that I wasn’t allowed to use the house phone but my girlfriend could use hers so she’d call the number of the pay phone down the street from me so it was free for me and her (but not her parents!)

Re: Rivian is opening its charging network to other EVs

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Post by borski »

NotSammyHagar wrote: post #32

Their strategy was to build them where there weren't other dcfc chargers, opening up new areas especially around outdoors places. Their chargers are much better maintained in general than the infamous Electrify America (they really struggle to fix EA chargers when they have problems, and they have problems) - there's a long story behind this. Rivian started before the plan to use superchargers was even envisioned, so…

Superchargers also have the benefit of only having to support Teslas. It is very relevant to note that the rollout of using superchargers by other brands has been a giant clusterfuck.

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Post by 05 »

boredatoms wrote: post #203
iknowstuff wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

50% is grossly exaggerated and kind of shows you’re in a bubble. Tesla sells in China, the world’s largest car market and by far the largest EV market, and Europe, and Australia, and Japan etc. even half of americans dont give a fuck despite some democrats claiming that. Most people dont give a fuck about the ceo’s politics except maybe in the bay area.

Anecdotally, Australians are very very unhappy with Musk now due to the US election

Which is a moot point anyway, since without 100% tariffs Tesla isn’t competitive with Chinese EVs that are taking Australia by storm.

Re: Rivian is opening its charging network to other EVs

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Post by borski »

melodyogonna wrote: post #211
AtlasBarfed wrote: post #199

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Such ANGER. The Internet says 50% of US buyers are identified democrats, YMMV for internet stats. That number doesn't seem stupid -- EVs are progressive, environmentalist, anti-establishment. Tesla's stock is a huge bubble. It's worth the next 10 car companies combined! Yes there's a ton of AI speculation in there, but fundamentally the company's stock is about geometric growth in sales. The most important customer t…

Is it Tesla sales that is down or a general down trend in the car market? Tesla's Model Y is still the best selling car model in the world in 2024

Other EV brands have increased sales in the same time period Tesla has lost them.
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