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Most people haven't had any genuine exposure to the cultures that exist on the extreme ends of the political spectrum. You would have to be familiar with them to understand what emotions that dredges up, otherwise you're going to be terribly confused by this. However understanding is not a requisite for diplomatic communication with other cultures. An international standards committee that wants to represent the inte…
> Most people haven't had any genuine exposure to the cultures that exist on the extreme ends of the political spectrum. You would have to be familiar with them to understand what emotions that dredges up, otherwise you're going to be terribly confused by this. Out towards the ends of the political spectrum, the prevailing "culture" uses such weird terminology that normal people can't let that affect their -- our (ho…
C++ Standards Contributor Expelled for 'The Undefined Behavior Question'
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Re: C++ Standards Contributor Expelled for 'The Undefined Behavior Question'
#112This appears to be the source of the backlash: https://izzys.casa/2024/11/on-safe-cxx/
Re: C++ Standards Contributor Expelled for 'The Undefined Behavior Question'
#113This appears to be the source of the backlash: https://izzys.casa/2024/11/on-safe-cxx/
Re: C++ Standards Contributor Expelled for 'The Undefined Behavior Question'
#114This appears to be the source of the backlash: https://izzys.casa/2024/11/on-safe-cxx/
Re: C++ Standards Contributor Expelled for 'The Undefined Behavior Question'
#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Interesting that you did not choose to voice your opinions using your main accounts on that community then. I'd love to, but reddit and cpp keep banning/suspending accounts - so I can't! Funny how that works isn't it? > Nah, that was just the comment I used to get to your profile. I banned you for insulting someone. That is not true. Here is the message: > Hello, You have been permanently banned from participating…
> That is not true. I banned you, so I like to think I'm an authority on why you were banned. Here's a step by step timeline of what happened. 1. This comment of yours received a high number of reports and was automatically filtered: https://www.reddit.com/r/cpp/comments/1gyiwwc/comment/lyp3jl... 2. I agreed with the reports and removed your comments. 3. I read the rest of the comments in your thread, and noticed you…
Re: C++ Standards Contributor Expelled for 'The Undefined Behavior Question'
#116The last few times I've seen technical groups kick someone out over racism, including anti-semitism, they picked one point where the person kept doubling down after a very long history of borderline rule following behavior that was clearly malicious. I would be very surprised to see if this was different. While I agree in principle that we can't allow the word question to be destroyed by hate speech, there are always…
Re: C++ Standards Contributor Expelled for 'The Undefined Behavior Question'
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>An international standards committee that wants to represent the interests of all groups needs to take this kind of thing seriously. Perhaps, but perhaps there are times where the "extreme ends of the political spectrum" are actually muckrakers who use feigned offense as a tool for eliminating people they just don't like for petty reasons. People can be offended for any number of reasons but somehow certain arbitrar…
She's very much an agitator. However the C++ leaders aren't trying to avoid offending anyone. They're trying to do something even more difficult which is not making anyone feel uncomfortable. That paper's title makes people think about things they'd rather not think about instead of C++. Normal people would just read it, feel distracted, and then say nothing, which is unfortunate, since I'm sure Andrew would have muc…
Only if you are insane.
Re: C++ Standards Contributor Expelled for 'The Undefined Behavior Question'
#118This appears to be the source of the backlash: https://izzys.casa/2024/11/on-safe-cxx/
To save anyone else the time: > Andrew Tomazos submitted P3403, a paper titled “The Undefined Behavior Question” (which HOOBOY man we’re just knocking it out of the fucking park with possible anti-semitic dog whistles today aren’t we?) Riiiight. To be fair apart from that their criticism of Tomasoz seems relatively justifiable, if unnecessarily angry. Tomasoz has said that "almost noone" has ever written anything pro…
No. Absolutely not. No reasonable person would consider the title to be that.
Re: C++ Standards Contributor Expelled for 'The Undefined Behavior Question'
#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Most people haven't had any genuine exposure to the cultures that exist on the extreme ends of the political spectrum. You would have to be familiar with them to understand what emotions that dredges up, otherwise you're going to be terribly confused by this. Out towards the ends of the political spectrum, the prevailing "culture" uses such weird terminology that normal people can't let that affect their -- our (ho…
That's what they want. International institutions actually go out of their way to recruit people from different backgrounds, specifically so those people will warn them whenever they're about to embarrass themselves in front of other cultures. For example, the word "byte" might rub French people the wrong way, because it sounds like a slang word they use for male genitalia. The word "poke" is another one to avoid, si…
Eeh... Where did you get this from? Neither "foo" nor "bar" sound like slang for excrement in any Nordic language I know. And I'm native in one, near-native proficient in another, and the two largest remaining are very similar to the first. Are you talking about Icelandic, Saami, or Faroese?
Re: C++ Standards Contributor Expelled for 'The Undefined Behavior Question'
#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's what they want. International institutions actually go out of their way to recruit people from different backgrounds, specifically so those people will warn them whenever they're about to embarrass themselves in front of other cultures. For example, the word "byte" might rub French people the wrong way, because it sounds like a slang word they use for male genitalia. The word "poke" is another one to avoid, si…
> Never name your variables foo and bar if you plan to share your code with Nordic countries, because it can be confused with slang for excrement. Eeh... Where did you get this from? Neither "foo" nor "bar" sound like slang for excrement in any Nordic language I know. And I'm native in one, near-native proficient in another, and the two largest remaining are very similar to the first. Are you talking about Icelandic,…