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Re: ICC issues warrants for Netanyahu, Gallant, and Hamas officials

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3vidence wrote: post #782

Am I the only one who thinks it's completely justified for leaders of both sides to be wanted for war crimes?? If someone assaults me and I retaliate by injuring their family members then both the assilant and me are both guilty for criminal assault. Maybe not a perfect analogy but that's what it seems has happened here...

Doesn't seem to accomplish much in the age of remote work.

Putin has had an arrest warrant for years and he just attended the BRICS summit remotely instead of in person.

Since in theory they would be obligated to arrest him in person. But seemed they had no problem letting him attend by video call.

Re: ICC issues warrants for Netanyahu, Gallant, and Hamas officials

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Post by 3vidence »

rasz wrote: post #790
3vidence wrote: post #782

Am I the only one who thinks it's completely justified for leaders of both sides to be wanted for war crimes?? If someone assaults me and I retaliate by injuring their family members then both the assilant and me are both guilty for criminal assault. Maybe not a perfect analogy but that's what it seems has happened here...

Sure, like bullied kid getting suspended because all this trouble is because of him.

Well again in the analogy the issue seems not to be Isreal defending itself (i do believe they have the right to do so as should any country).

The issues seems to be retaliation against a civilian population.

Really attacking civilians seems to be the major war crimes on both sides of this conflict

Re: ICC issues warrants for Netanyahu, Gallant, and Hamas officials

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Post by dotancohen »

shihab wrote: post #175
StefanBatory wrote: post #96

Netanyahu I'm not surprised, but Gallant? EDIT: Asking genuinely on Gallant all I know is he was minister of defence and had a felling out with Netanyahu.

"Defense minister [Gallant] announces ‘complete siege’ of Gaza: No power, food or fuel". [1] [1] https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/defense-ministe...

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Re: ICC issues warrants for Netanyahu, Gallant, and Hamas officials

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Post by dotancohen »

newspaper1 wrote: post #186
StefanBatory wrote: post #96

Netanyahu I'm not surprised, but Gallant? EDIT: Asking genuinely on Gallant all I know is he was minister of defence and had a felling out with Netanyahu.

Gallant's position is that there are no innocent people in Gaza and that they should be starved to death. He's said this many times: https://x.com/KhalilJeries/status/1853905224320372923

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Re: ICC issues warrants for Netanyahu, Gallant, and Hamas officials

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Post by 3vidence »

tacheiordache wrote: post #787
3vidence wrote: post #782

Am I the only one who thinks it's completely justified for leaders of both sides to be wanted for war crimes?? If someone assaults me and I retaliate by injuring their family members then both the assilant and me are both guilty for criminal assault. Maybe not a perfect analogy but that's what it seems has happened here...

No but this opinion is unjustifiably considered antisemitic and you couuld potentially have unwanted repercussions e.g. lose your job if you make it public. Such are the times we live in.

For context, I'm not American and I would have trouble understanding how this could be conceived as antisemitic??

Also mentioned in another comment I do believe Isreal has a right to defend itself but not to commit war crimes against civilians... that seems to be the issue here.

Re: ICC issues warrants for Netanyahu, Gallant, and Hamas officials

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Post by klipt »

ClumsyPilot wrote: post #462
nabla9 wrote: post #12

(before you jump into discussion, remember that this only about these two individuals) ICC and the prosecutor are on very solid ground here. The prosecutor asked opinions from a impartial panel of experts in international law. The panel included people like Theodor Meron (former Legal adviser for the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs), Helene Kennedy, Adrian Fulford. Netanyahu and Yoav Gallant provided plenty of ev…

> Gallant provided plenty of evidence of the intent. Did they really think that when they talk Hebrew to their audience, rest of the world does not hear them. Absolutely, I can not find the BBC or most other major news networks broadcasting and translating any of that. I only see that on social media

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Re: ICC issues warrants for Netanyahu, Gallant, and Hamas officials

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Post by dotancohen »

ArnoVW wrote: post #419
giardini wrote: post #410

Have they issued any warrants for Hamas leaders for the 7 October Hamas-led attack on Israel?

they have, at the same time, issued a warrant for Mohammed Diab Ibrahim Al-Masri, who is (or was) the commander of the armed part of Hamas. https://www.icc-cpi.int/news/situation-state-palestine-icc-p...

He's been declared dead by both Israel and Hamas.

How about the Hamas leaders living in Turkey? They were just kicked out of Qatar, and being in (semi-)European Turkey should be easier to arrest, no? Remember, these Hamas leaders in Turkey actually, really, call for explicit genocide - and carry out their actions.

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Post by erezsh »

lynndotpy wrote: post #708
loeg wrote: post #631

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There is consensus as to what is happening and only a minority of the world thinks otherwise. Well, that's obviously false. GP is right; this topic produces more heat than light.

There is a strong but not unanimous consensus that Israel is committing war-crimes and enforcing an apartheid state in the territories it occupies. There is consternation over whether Israel's actions constitute genocide. That said, I think it's fair to assume that people from the US and other Israel-allied nations are disproportionately represented on Hacker News. So, we should not expect the global consensus to be…

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Re: ICC issues warrants for Netanyahu, Gallant, and Hamas officials

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Post by onemoresoop »

grumple wrote: post #522
dang wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On HN, having some stories with political overlap is both inevitable and ok—the question is which particular stories those should be. We try to go for the ones that contain significant new information. See more at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42204689 . This approach has been stable for many years and there's no intention to allow HN to become a primarily-political site (quite the contrary) but it also doesn'…

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> I don’t personally have the energy to combat all of it.

You have to put in the effort you think the current situation is. Everybody else is doing the same. Indeed see a lot of grayed out comments that defend Israel and wish they were regular color so it’s just a discussion. But in the same way commers get downvoted they could also be upvoted. Maybe your opinions have many people who disagree and few who agree? I urge all thise who agree with you to upvote your comments.

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