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Re: ICC issues warrants for Netanyahu, Gallant, and Hamas officials

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Post by magic_hamster » Thu, Nov 21, 2024, 4:33 PM UTC

bbqfog wrote: post #144

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> Did they really think that when they talk Hebrew to their audience, rest of the world does not hear them. When it comes to US public opinion, that's normally the way it works.

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Israel was massively radicalized by October 7th. Prior to October 7th, a lot of Israelis believed that if Palestinians had a better economy and could afford a comfortable life, peace would be possible. October 7th was not just a surprise to many Israelis, but also the atrocities were so horrible that it radically changed how Israelis view the situation. This is hard to grasp, but a lot of people don't really understand what happened on October 7th, because this was stuff was obviously not shown on mainstream media.

The entire situation is very tragic. But ultimately, October 7th killed any chance for peace between Israel and the Palestinians, for a long long time. The current population in Israel will never forget October 7th, there are some seriously cannot-be-unseen NSFL atrocities.

Re: ICC issues warrants for Netanyahu, Gallant, and Hamas officials

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Post by newspaper1 » Thu, Nov 21, 2024, 4:33 PM UTC

burkaman wrote: post #292

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I don't necessarily think you're wrong, but drawing any conclusions from random people on Twitter seems like a mistake. They might not be human, they might not be Israeli, and they might not be representative of Israel's 9 million people. I wouldn't want anybody to judge me based on how English-speaking Twitter accounts behave.

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Re: ICC issues warrants for Netanyahu, Gallant, and Hamas officials

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Post by abbe98 » Thu, Nov 21, 2024, 4:34 PM UTC

lupire wrote: post #276

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ICC is not a UN organ: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Criminal_Court

Re: ICC issues warrants for Netanyahu, Gallant, and Hamas officials

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Post by rdtsc » Thu, Nov 21, 2024, 4:37 PM UTC

0xDEAFBEAD wrote: post #82

>In his first response to the ICC issuing a warrant for his arrest on allegations of war crimes, Benjamin Netanyahu’s office has described the ruling as “absurd and false lies” and said the decision is “antisemitic.” https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/nov/21/internati... If Netanyahu and Gallant really think they are innocent, and the allegations are absurd and false, they should cooperate with the ICC. Have…

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Re: ICC issues warrants for Netanyahu, Gallant, and Hamas officials

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Post by EvgeniyZh » Thu, Nov 21, 2024, 4:38 PM UTC

dang wrote: post #38

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Why not? How is it “hacker news” at all? It’s just news news.

On HN, having some stories with political overlap is both inevitable and ok—the question is which particular stories those should be. We try to go for the ones that contain significant new information. See more at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42204689 . This approach has been stable for many years and there's no intention to allow HN to become a primarily-political site (quite the contrary) but it also doesn'…

I don't think I've seen any pro-Israeli post in top since the beginning of the war. Definitely anything I submitted was flagged to death almost immediately, even if it was hacker-ish (say, the analysis of the Hamas statistics). You can say of course that users decide what they want, but for political stories at least I don't think it is straightforward

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Post by emadabdulrahim » Thu, Nov 21, 2024, 4:38 PM UTC

GordonS wrote: post #208

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Antisemitism is a form of bigotry, no more or less special than other forms of bigotry and racism.

If you read any significant amount of history you'd know that already, and you wouldn't need to prove that Antisemitism is real. Of course it is. So is anti-[insert religious or ethnic group]

Re: ICC issues warrants for Netanyahu, Gallant, and Hamas officials

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Post by lupire » Thu, Nov 21, 2024, 4:38 PM UTC

highcountess wrote: post #244

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"confirmed" data from Gaza at the moment is unreliable. The people who were doing the counting have either been killed or cleansed from the area. The official death toll is still around 40k despite the reality being closer to 100-200k.

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Re: ICC issues warrants for Netanyahu, Gallant, and Hamas officials

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Post by wslh » Thu, Nov 21, 2024, 4:38 PM UTC

dang wrote: post #279

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Stories about divisive topics are routinely flagged from all sides. It's common, if not inevitable, for people who feel strongly about $topic to conclude that the system (or the community, or the mods, etc.) are biased against their side ( https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... ). One is far more likely to notice whatever data points that one dislikes because they go against one's view and ov…

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Re: ICC issues warrants for Netanyahu, Gallant, and Hamas officials

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Post by ceejayoz » Thu, Nov 21, 2024, 4:39 PM UTC

starik36 wrote: post #290

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Also important to note that Khan, who filed the warrant requests, was one of Israel’s preferred appointees to the ICC as chief prosecutor.

Why would it be preferred or not? Israel is not an ICC member.

One can express a preference without having the right to participate in the selection.

Quite a few non-US citizens express a preference on who wins the Presidency, for example.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/uks-karim-khan-elected-next-ic...

> Israel’s Kan public broadcaster reported that Israeli officials supported Khan’s candidacy behind the scenes, and consider him a pragmatist who shies away from politicization.

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Post by WJW » Thu, Nov 21, 2024, 4:41 PM UTC

bbqfog wrote: post #144

justin66 wrote: post #60

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> Did they really think that when they talk Hebrew to their audience, rest of the world does not hear them. When it comes to US public opinion, that's normally the way it works.

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